| How can u say that, if this was you, you would be devistated and would not want to be charged for this terrible accident. How can you say he shouldnt have been doing that, it was clearly an accident, and yes he shouldnt have had an overloaded truck but that does not make any difference in the "Accident" that occured. |
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Originally Posted by firefighter39
This guy should loose his job - He should have known better that driving an overweight truck
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Originally Posted by HousingCop
How's this guy supposed to know his truck is overloaded? Pull his pocket scale out of his back pocket & tap in some numbers?
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Originally Posted by firefighter39
I notice that a lot of officers are quick to cite and even arrest illegal aliens who do not have drivers lic. - if this guy was a Brazilian landscaper w/o a licenses he would have been locked-up on the scene.
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Originally Posted by Delta784
I've been on the job approaching 20 years, and I would have no clue whatsoever if a truck was overloaded. No cop would, except those on truck teams or accident reconstruction. Nor would I have any clue as to what constitutes a Class B vehicle.
It's always a tragedy when a child dies, but I'm really disappointed with the rush to judgement I've seen so far from some people on this board. |
| Like no one making comments has ever offered their badge or id when they get stopped in hopes of getting out of the ticket. Dont be a hypocrite. |
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Originally Posted by kmf294
Also to our firefighter here I notice your failed to comment on the thread about the firefighter who attacked a Taunton Cop. Convenient. |
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Originally Posted by kwflatbed
One other comment for the Fire Fighter I know that you are excluded from having to hold a class license to drive the trucks, but in my opinion from some of the firemen that I have taught it should be mandatory that all of you should have the training and the proper license to operate the class of equipment that you drive. |
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Originally Posted by firefighter39
if this guy was a Brazilian landscaper w/o a licenses he would have been locked-up on the scene.
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Originally Posted by Gil
This is a tragedy all the way around. I would never want to imagine losing one of my children in anyway. I feel for the parents, I think we all do.
I also feel for Aaron, this must be killing him, He is a good friend of mine. He has kids of his own and I can only imagine how he is feeling. I'm not defending his actions or lack of, I just wanted you to know that he is not some cocky cop that thinks he is above the law. He is without a doubt a very caring person and I know this has to be eating away at him. The outcome of this tragic incident has already been decided, a little girl lost her life. Tearing Aaron apart on here for his actions or lack of serves no purpose. I seriously doubt that Aaron is going to get any breaks because of his badge, he wouldn't allow it. He made a mistake that will be haunting him the rest of his life. I can guarantee you that the only thing on his mind right now his the life he took and the well being of her parents. |
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Originally Posted by kmf294
I agree with Gil here completely. I am sure Aaron would not allow himself special privilege because of his employment.
From what I gather from people at the scene Aaron was well under the speed limit on this stretch of road and had maneuvered the truck to give the child a wide berth. The child was riding her bike on his side of the road towards him prior to the crash. The child apparently turned quickly to dart into her driveway where her father was waiting. It sounds as if it would have been impossible to stop a moped much less a large truck. No one should rush to judgement here. This is an unfortunate accident with no winners at all. I am sure Aaron will accept whatever the investigation and court deem appropriate. On the same token Mansfield PD is a fine agency and I am sure they will support Aaron either way and do what is appropriate. The thing that really sickens me here is how quickly other cops condemned Aaron. The guy made a mistake by not getting his class B. Big deal. There are people out there with these licenses that I would not trust to drive a go cart. People in here are quick to believe he is going to use his status as a police officer to get out of this. Like no one making comments has ever offered their badge or id when they get stopped in hopes of getting out of the ticket. Dont be a hypocrite. For the firefighter who is quick to condem this cop you should stick to what you know before commenting. There is no right of arrest for any of the offenses Officer Fine has been charged with to date. Anyone who tells you different is wrong, plain and simple. So you should go back to your lazy boy and wait for us to call you to save a foundation somewhere. Also to our firefighter here I notice your failed to comment on the thread about the firefighter who attacked a Taunton Cop. Convenient. I am not shitting on firefighters here at all. I have a great deal of respect for that profession. I have a lot of good friends that are firefighters and serve proudly. You cant help respect people that risk their lives to save others by running into burning buildings. My intent is not to start a cops vs firefighters here, but to get people to think carefully before making comments before having all the info before them. |
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Originally Posted by Tango
Hey FF39 (ding ding) --god forbid some child doesnt run in front of your engine when you are screaming down the road, blowing traffic lights for a cat in a tree...
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Originally Posted by firefighter39
If I or any other FF were screaming down the road for a "cat in a tree" call I would deserve to loose my license, job etc.. and pay the price!!
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Originally Posted by firefighter39
If I or any other FF were screaming down the road for a "cat in a tree" call I would deserve to loose my license, job etc.. and pay the price!!
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Originally Posted by Delta784
The call they were going to? A drunk passed-out on the sidewalk.
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Originally Posted by Delta784
But, you probably wouldn't. I once did an accident where a fire engine didn't even slow down for a red light (a half-dozen witnesses) and creamed a Buick Century that had the green light, sending it airborne through the front of a Firestone store. The woman driving had to be sent in-town with serious injuries, and was lucky to survive. The deputy fire chief actually wanted me to cite the woman!
My sergeant declined to respond, and since I don't cite emergency service workers, the fireman driving the truck wasn't cited. The call they were going to? A drunk passed-out on the sidewalk. |
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On the negligent homicide charge, Chernoff said that, in a civil case, he would find that "it is more probable than not" that Fine caused "the egregious harm suffered in the accident." However, because it's a criminal case, Chernoff said prosecutors fell "just short" of proving Fine's guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt." "Not guilty does not mean innocent," Chernoff added. |
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Originally Posted by Delta784
I've been on the job approaching 20 years, and I would have no clue whatsoever if a truck was overloaded. No cop would, except those on truck teams or accident reconstruction. Nor would I have any clue as to what constitutes a Class B vehicle.
I can’t believe the driver (Officer) doesn’t know the difference between licenses. Was he sleeping during that particular class? This driver just opened a box of worms. The company will get audited by the Federal Motor Carrier Bureau and the MSP team. The company will receive heavy fines and suspensions. Yeah this operator takes full reasonability for his actions. He took a life. If he did not get behind the wheel this might not have happened. |

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