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FT academy substitute?

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Posted by: 2-Delta

Has anyone ever heard of substituting the ft academy with any combination of other academies, degrees, and work experience? I have not, however someone was trying to tell me otherwise. I don't mean the SSPO, I'm talking MCJTC (or whatever they are calling themselves this week).


Posted by: Delta784

I believe there are no more exemptions for the full-time academy. We recently hired two people who were on PD's in New Hampshire (Portsmouth & Nashua), and they both had to do the full MPTC academy.

There used to be a waiver process, but I'm pretty certain it no longer exists.


Posted by: USMCMP5811

Hmmmm, would be interesting to know.....


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by USMCMP5811
Hmmmm, would be interesting to know.....
These would be the people to ask;

http://www.state.ma.us/cjtc/

A quick look indicates they do indeed still have an exemption program. Of course, it's still up to the department that hires you if they want you to do the MPTC academy.


Posted by: Mitpo62

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
I believe there are no more exemptions for the full-time academy. We recently hired two people who were on PD's in New Hampshire (Portsmouth & Nashua), and they both had to do the full MPTC academy.

There used to be a waiver process, but I'm pretty certain it no longer exists.
I believe that process is KAPUT! I had to go through again and was pretty PO'd about it; but what the heck are you going to do about it. Thank goodness it was in Plymouth. Uuuuuu-raaah!


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62
I believe that process is KAPUT! I had to go through again and was pretty PO'd about it; but what the heck are you going to do about it. Thank goodness it was in Plymouth. Uuuuuu-raaah!
No, there is an exemption for the MPTC, but hiring agencies may still require the full academy. Go to the MPTC website, in the upper left hand corner under "Programs & Services" there is a link titled "MPTC Exemptions".

http://www.state.ma.us/cjtc/


Posted by: extremesgs

I checked on that "combination" thing last year for a friend of mine who works in NH (went through a few academies, NH being the last).

They said your basic recruit academy must meet the requirements of MPTC, otherwise you must attend an MPTC academy.


Posted by: SouthSideCobras

We had a guy apply for a F/T State College PD job with a F/T NH Academy and we were told by the licensing powers that he would need to attend the MA Reserve Academy for a wavier. So I would not think a F/T NH Academy would transfer to a F/T MA job



Posted by: texdep

The is NO single answer to this question.
MPTC HAS an exemption process.
However, each case is reviewed individually and the results of each review will be differant.


Posted by: RPD931

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthSideCobras
We had a guy apply for a F/T State College PD job with a F/T NH Academy and we were told by the licensing powers that he would need to attend the MA Reserve Academy for a wavier. So I would not think a F/T NH Academy would transfer to a F/T MA job
The licensing for SSPO Powers (Campus Police Officer) is MUCH different that for a waiver for F/T Municipal Police Officer. You really can't compare the 2. In Mass., the SSPO Academy will get you nothing more than a Campus Job.. But you can take that SSPO Academy Certification and get a full-time job in MANY other states. Go figure.


Posted by: kojack1

You used to be able to transfer a full time academy from NH, and a couple of other states until recently (the last 2 years or so). I personally spoke to someone at the MCJTC and she said there was a form that had to be submitted along with a resume. 2 months after that call I spoke to someone else and they said it was no longer valid. Without giving away to much I was doing this for someone very close to me and someone high up in the MCJTC said it was still possible, HOWEVER the chief and/or the appointing authority would have to sign off on it and assume all liability. That is what usually stops you from transferring academies.

I would call and explain our situation, you never know


Posted by: Macop

TEXASDEP SAID :
The is NO single answer to this question.
MPTC HAS an exemption process.
However, each case is reviewed individually and the results of each review will be differant.

That is the best post yet, makes sence.


Posted by: Mitpo62

I'd go through the academy again........and again.........and again............and again.............




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