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Posted by: Harley387

I can't seem to find them...I know I have em someplace.....anyone know them? Thanks in advance.

Posted by: q5_po

SIDDLMTTS

Posted by: 57ragus

q5 po,

I believe you forgot the last "I" = Identity Fraud.

Posted by: hunter3277

I will spell them out for you
OUI
shoplifting
order to vacate
A&B
RO violation
94c
library books
tagging
poss of MV with altered vin
civil rights viol.
theft of certain public records
fail to reg as a sex offender
Id fraud
I hope this helps you

Posted by: PBC FL Cop

Just FYI - EVERY misdemeanor committed in your presence, in Florida, is arrestable

Posted by: Harley387

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Originally Posted by q5_po

SIDDLMTTS

Huh? Never seen that before.

Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

You're talking about arrestable misdemeanors NOT committed in the officer's presence, correct?

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Originally Posted by Harley387

Quote:

Originally Posted by q5_po

SIDDLMTTS

Huh? Never seen that before.

It's an abbreviation (not the word I'm looking for here, but you know what I mean) for the offenses. I can't for the life of me remember what they are except for "shoplifting," "domestics," "tagging," and "library books". They're all listed in the above posts, just different words being used for some offenses...

Posted by: USMCTrooper

Don't forget most town's ordinances are all arrestable too, read your City/Town ordinance book. For Troopers there is also the very broad powers of 22C Sec 12:

Chapter 22C: Section 12 Misdemeanors committed in presence of on-duty uniformed member; enforcement powers

Section 12. Any uniformed member of the state police may, upon view of any misdemeanor committed in his presence while on duty, arrest the person committing such misdemeanor, where such misdemeanor was committed in any building or grounds owned or occupied, wholly or in part by the commonwealth, or on streets adjacent to any such building, and shall enforce all traffic rules, regulations and ordinances on streets adjacent to buildings owned or occupied, wholly or in part, by the commonwealth.

I never realized the scope of this until I started realizing how many "streets adjacent" there were to "grounds owned or occupied wholly or in part by the Commonwealth"

Posted by: csauce30

Isnt there a chapter and section that outlines the right to arrest for town/city bylaw violations?

Such as drinking in public...

Posted by: Irishpride

In case anyone was still wondering what SIDDLMTTSI stood for:

S =Shoplifting
I =Influence (operating under)
D=Domestic
D=Drugs
L=Library book theft or defacing
M=Motor vehicle VIN obliterating
T=Tagging
T=Theft of certain records
S=Sex Offender (failure to register)
I=identity fraud

Posted by: capepd

Poor Capt. Eugieno would be so hurt to see this post...

For shame...for shame

Did you forget you Academy classes already??

Posted by: capepd

To make the Capt. feel better....

Let's remember what ULIARS stands for?? (hint..arrestable misdemeanors- in presence)

"Please people..help us out on this...I am but one, and you are many"

Posted by: Harley387

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Originally Posted by capepd

To make the Capt. feel better....

Let's remember what ULIARS stands for?? (hint..arrestable misdemeanors- in presence)

"Please people..help us out on this...I am but one, and you are many"

U- Unlicensed
L- Leaving the scene
I- OUI
A- Use without authority
R- Revoked/Suspended
S- Submit/Failure to

Did I pass?

Posted by: Harley387

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irishpride

In case anyone was still wondering what SIDDLMTTSI stood for:

S =Shoplifting
I =Influence (operating under)
D=Domestic
D=Drugs
L=Library book theft or defacing
M=Motor vehicle VIN obliterating
T=Tagging
T=Theft of certain records
S=Sex Offender (failure to register)
I=identity fraud

That's only 10 what are the other 3?

Posted by: Wolfman

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this one, but I don't think "Stolen" is part of ULIARS - I think the "S" is "Submit, fail to" as the acronym covers arrestable Chapter 90 violations.

However, overall I would side with Dunny, I think the original idea was to find arrestable misdemeanors NOT occuring in the officer's presence/view.

Posted by: Harley387

You are 100% correct. Post edited.

Posted by: q5_po

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Originally Posted by 57ragus

q5 po,

I believe you forgot the last "I" = Identity Fraud.

Sorry bout that, When I went through the Reserve Academy, It wasn't there!

Posted by: EchoUnit

I'll be seeing Capt. Eugieno at the MV in service training in a couple weeks.

Posted by: benson

I have class with Capt. Eugieno on Tuesday this week. I'll have to tell him what a celebrity he is. Anyone remember his other analogies like people bounding down the montumba like a young puma.

Posted by: RPD931

Sorry, somehow this ended up in the wrong thread... Edited

Posted by: capepd

Scribe! Please send me two young pumas to the front of the room...

Ferret out your books..

She never burnt the rice before...but today she burnt the rice..

Mr. Narrator please, would you read what it says there..

Posted by: JP64

"… punched in the proboscis and the claret flows in a profuse manner to the macadam below…"

Posted by: EchoUnit

Every year he makes us trace our hand on a piece of paper, and right SPAR across it (Speech, Press, Assembly, Religion) in order to remember the 1st amendment...I think I got it the first time he taught it.

Posted by: capepd

The drawing of the hand is for the "right of arrest".....

Felony-in Presence
Felony-in past
Any misdemeanor (in presence) causing or threatening to cause a breach of the peace
Right of arrest by statute
Warrant

Now the Capt would really be upset that someone forgot those (haha)

Posted by: mpd61

"Take out the mother of all handouts!"
"he was just getting his life together"
"he took out his Ginsu and stabbed her once, twice........thrice!"

Posted by: Bluelite75

Fantastic! I'm going through my mother of all tomes and squaring myself. Bounding like a young puma across the macadam. Chief Ray is, well chief Ray. That man knows more about law than any of us could ever know. He is one of the best and most memorable instructors I've had. It will be a sad day for the MCJTC when he fades into that dark cold night

Posted by: capepd

He retired as a Captain....not a Chief!

Posted by: DC813

Quote:

Originally Posted by csauce30

Isnt there a chapter and section that outlines the right to arrest for town/city bylaw violations?

Such as drinking in public...

Chapter 272: Section 59 Ordinances or regulations relating to streets, reservations, or parkways; alcoholic beverages; profanity; arrest without warrant

Section 59. Whoever remains in a street or elsewhere in a town in wilful violation of an ordinance or by-law of such town or of any rule or regulation for the government or use of any public reservation, parkway or boulevard made under authority of law by any department, officer or board in charge thereof, whoever is in a street or elsewhere in a town in wilful violation of an ordinance or by-law of such town or of any rule or regulation for the government or use of any public reservation, parkway or boulevard made under authority of law by any department, officer or board in charge thereof, the substance of which is the drinking or possession of alcoholic beverage, and whoever in a street or other public place accosts or addresses another person with profane or obscene language, in wilful violation of an ordinance or by-law of such town, may be arrested without a warrant by an officer authorized to serve criminal process in the place where the offence is committed and kept in custody until he can be taken before a court having jurisdiction of the offence.

Posted by: Irishpride

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCTrooper

Chapter 22C: Section 12 Misdemeanors committed in presence of on-duty uniformed member; enforcement powers

Section 12. Any uniformed member of the state police may, upon view of any misdemeanor committed in his presence while on duty, arrest the person committing such misdemeanor, where such misdemeanor was committed in any building or grounds owned or occupied, wholly or in part by the commonwealth, or on streets adjacent to any such building, and shall enforce all traffic rules, regulations and ordinances on streets adjacent to buildings owned or occupied, wholly or in part, by the commonwealth.

This chp & Sec always brings me to a question about Chp 22c Sec 59 which states:
The colonel may, upon petition of the commissioner of mental health or the commissioner of mental retardation, appoint as special state police officers employees of the department of mental health or the department of mental retardation or employees of various institutions under the respective jurisdictions of said departments, who shall have the same power to make arrests as the state police for any criminal offense committed in or upon lands or structures within the charge of said departments or of the various institutions under the respective jurisdictions of said departments........

So would that lead one to believe that an SSPO for DMH or DMR on state property would have the same misdemeanor arrest authority as State Troopers do under Chp 22c Sec 12? This has always been a question I have received different answers on I'd be interested in any feedback.

Posted by: Wolfman

Hmmm...
Do we know if the commissioner of mental health or the commissioner of mental retardation has ever petitioned the Colonel to grant such powers to any employees? Seems that would be a prerequisite.

Posted by: Irishpride

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOR

Hmmm...
Do we know if the commissioner of mental health or the commissioner of mental retardation has ever petitioned the Colonel to grant such powers to any employees?

Actually to be technical the "petitioning" is done by the Area Director of Security (or Campus Police Chief) acting as a designee of the Commissioner appealing to the Certification Unit which operates under guidelines established by the Colonel. When its all said and done though the SSPO warrant (license) cites Chp. 22c Sec 59. This process is done for the members of the respective agency's Campus Police Departments.

Posted by: DC813

I would highly doubt that the intent of the statute when it refers to "uniformed members of the state police" was to include all the hundreds of persons that are sworn as specials for various capacities under 22C....open up the general laws website and look at the table of contents for 22C and see just how many special powers are granted. Especially whereas the city and town police do not have that authority, I wouldn't think that they would grant it to college and railroad police and every other appointment including the lottery agents etc etc

Not knocking college cops......cause I AM ONE! But, reality is reality.

Posted by: mpd61

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Originally Posted by Irishpride

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOR

Hmmm...
Do we know if the commissioner of mental health or the commissioner of mental retardation has ever petitioned the Colonel to grant such powers to any employees?

Let's face facts:

1. No, you're not a mini-trooper on DMH property.
2. Colonel Carl would blow a gasket if someone were arrested under this statute.

Posted by: Irishpride

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpd61

Colonel Carl would blow a gasket if someone were arrested under this statute.

Believe it or not he's the one who cited it in reference to DMH. Personally I think its a stretch (as DC813 pointed out the language of Chp 22c Sec 12 seems to be intended specifically for Troopers) but I wanted some feedback regarding it, out of curiosity more than anything else.

Posted by: DC813

I double checked that 22C statute and under the definitions section that leads the chapter, the following definition is given:

""Uniformed member'', member of the state police who has been appointed under the provisions of section ten.

That in my opinion is the end of any doubt, because the only members of the SP appointed under section 10 are Mass State Troopers.

"No person shall be enlisted as a uniformed member of the state police except in accordance with the provisions of this section; provided further, that no person employed as a police officer for an agency other than the department of state police, including but not limited to, any agency of the commonwealth or any of its political subdivisions, shall be allowed to transfer into a position as a uniformed member of the state police."

Posted by: Irishpride

Thanks DC813, that basically sums it up quite nicely.

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