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Posted by: HPD104

Which academy is the toughest???



Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

That's really not a question that can be answered unless one single person has attended every single police academy in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts! And what aspect of the academy are you referring to: PT, academics or overall?

I have heard that physically the MSP academy is the most grueling and I have heard that the BPD academy really pushes the books on you.



Posted by: HPD104

Quote:
Originally Posted by Officer Dunngeon
That's really not a question that can be answered unless one single person has attended every single police academy in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts! And what aspect of the academy are you referring to: PT, academics or overall?

I have heard that physically the MSP academy is the most grueling and I have heard that the BPD academy really pushes the books on you.
Ya I agree with MSP. I guess I am more just wondering of reputation, as people have only attended there respective academy.



Posted by: Rock

This is like asking "Which toilet paper is softest?" Their all soft, some just more so than others.



Posted by: tomcats

You didn't put the MBTA academy in the poll. They run a pretty squared away academy.Physically pretty tough and also they make sure you know the basics very well before you graduate. I do agree with Officer Dunngeon though. People are going to say whatever academy then went through was the toughest.



Posted by: 48Weeks

MBTA academy definitly pushes you physically. However, an Ape could get through the academic portion of the T Academy. From what I understand, besides the MSP academy, the MBTA has the toughest as far as running, pushups etc etc. If you are looking to learn more try to get into another academy. Stay safe.



Posted by: DPD6860

You forgot the Lowell Police Academy, Hoorah!.



Posted by: redpara

I couldn't resist this one; I've been to both the SSPO and the Municipal Academy (Reading) within the past couple years. The SSPO (MSP) stands out as the most challenging; I know this will start howels of protest but, you are treated pretty much the same as the RTT 'S, they do not slack off after a couple days, the PT was exceptional, probably because of a staff dedicated to just that; PT. There was no comparison between the discipline imposed, the Municipal academies are not up to the standard.



Posted by: Pacman

I have taught at all but Agawam. The State Police academy is the toughest overall, imho. The MBTA has a fanatical staff that P.T.'s you to death. Lowell's Director Tom Flemming is a marathoning psycho. Reading is like Camp Care Bear. Plymouth is run pretty well with an emphasis on both mental and physical. Boyleston's D.T. is excellent, and I think they have taken a hit since the loss of Rufo and MacDonald.

Overall each academy is what it's recruits make of it. Waltham was known for it academic excellence but it lacked in it's P.T. aspects. That's the best way I can put my opinions into the fray.



Posted by: 4233

The academics at the Boston academy were put together well. Lt. Moore did a great job. Sgt Fisher's P.T program was intense but lacked a few things. After level 2, with the exception of P.T and the range(the range was the best firearms training I've had) the rest of the academy was an absolute waste of time.



Posted by: Bravo2-7

You forgot Lowell!!!




I agree with what some others have said, someone really can't comment on the other acadamies that they having been to. That being said, I would put Lowell up against any Academy in the state and believe it to be near the top of the list in both P.T. and academics.



Posted by: Deuce

I'll throw Worcester in the mix.



Posted by: T4567

there a few academies missing from the list. I say MBTA is toughest, then comes Lowell followed by Reading.



Posted by: Vader

Quote:
Originally Posted by redpara
I know this will start howels of protest but, you are treated pretty much the same as the RTT 'S,
I remember thinking the same thing when I'd see you guys entering the SPA 4 weeks after us and leaving 4 weeks before we graduated. I thought it again when we'd be done with our daily 5 mile (or more) run and weight training, shower, chow...then see you guys coming in for the day. And I'd think about it again at around 1500 - 1600 when I'd see you leaving the facility, heading home for a nice meal and quiet evening with the family, while I'm eating peanut butter sandwiches for the evening meal...then back at it til 2230. Pretty much identical...

You can't be serious. I know the D.I.'s go after you guys pretty good...but there is NO COMPARISON, my friend.



Posted by: Mitpo62

People PLEASE! You haven't had real police training until you've experienced the Plymouth Academy. Uuuuu-raaaah!



Posted by: tomcats

The poll is about municipal academies. We all know that the state is the toughest academy probably in the country. I commend anyone whohas gone through it and lived. Some municipal academies are tougher than others. But then again it depends on the individual. Some people are better at academics and some are better at P.T. So I think its pretty hard to pick one academy over another.



Posted by: Vader

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomcats
The poll is about municipal academies. We all know that the state is the toughest academy probably in the country. I commend anyone whohas gone through it and lived. Some municipal academies are tougher than others. But then again it depends on the individual. Some people are better at academics and some are better at P.T. So I think its pretty hard to pick one academy over another.
That wasn't my point. I was just rebutting the SSPO comment.

Is Agawam still "PT Optional"??? I was there to observe some guys / girls busting their butts around the track...while others sat and watched. No medical issues / no doctors notes, just did not want to PT. I hope that is a thing of the past.



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vader
That wasn't my point. I was just rebutting the SSPO comment.

Is Agawam still "PT Optional"??? I was there to observe some guys / girls busting their butts around the track...while others sat and watched. No medical issues / no doctors notes, just did not want to PT. I hope that is a thing of the past.
Are you serious, P.T. optional? Please tell me you're joking.



Posted by: Tango

Is it true that in the SSPO academy, the boxing matches are also optional?



Posted by: fscpd907

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
Is it true that in the SSPO academy, the boxing matches are also optional?

Yes, I had one classmate who did not participate.



Posted by: JoninNH

Quote:
Reading is like Camp Care Bear.






Posted by: jrc1179

Middlesex County Academy is no joke as far as PT. We have a DI that runs Boston every year and comes in the top 20 every year. He's fucked. I know alot of you guys dont like the sheriffs, but it is a different department these days. Some squared away guys come out of that academy. I one of them. I respect what everybody does. We are well trained officers, and we have full police powers except chp. 90, which is going to change next summer. We are LEGIT!!!!!



Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrc1179
Middlesex County Academy is no joke as far as PT. We have a DI that runs Boston every year and comes in the top 20 every year. He's fucked. I know alot of you guys dont like the sheriffs, but it is a different department these days. Some squared away guys come out of that academy. I one of them. I respect what everybody does. We are well trained officers, and we have full police powers except chp. 90, which is going to change next summer. We are LEGIT!!!!!



Oh boy.



You're new around here, huh Sparky?

Be right back. I'm going to microwave some popcorn.



Posted by: HPD104

Quote:
Originally Posted by Officer Dunngeon
Oh boy.



You're new around here, huh Sparky?

Be right back. I'm going to microwave some popcorn.
I'll grab the soda!



Posted by: Vader

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrc1179
We are LEGIT!!!!!
Hammer-time!!!



Posted by: Belker

I have been to both municipal and the SSPO. The SSPO was harder. They let the DI'S train on us until the RTT class starts. I think all of the academys are strong in some things and maybe not so strong on others. We all come out blue and that's all that counts



Posted by: redpara

To Vader
OK, you win.



Posted by: RPD931

Yeah, Where's the MSP? BPD Academy?, Lowell Academy? MBTA Academy? Worcester PD Academy?



Posted by: USMCMP5811

Quote:
Originally Posted by Officer Dunngeon
Oh boy.



You're new around here, huh Sparky?

Be right back. I'm going to microwave some popcorn.






Posted by: Mortal knight

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock
This is like asking "Which toilet paper is softest?" Their all soft, some just more so than others.
obviously you don't remember the public school 1 sheet of tri-fold sandpaper!



Posted by: GodblessThearmy

12 weeks left in lowell right now and I can't feel my legs, massive shin splints, soo much running.... almost done though.



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Posted by: RPD931

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mortal knight
obviously you don't remember the public school 1 sheet of tri-fold sandpaper!
Ah yes, the good old school toilet paper. The only place I know that had toilet paper that was rougher than brown paper.



Posted by: DODK911

My Academy is better then yours!!!!! Who cares!? The only thing that counts is that we are all BLUE!!!!!

Stay Safe.



Posted by: HPD104

Quote:
Originally Posted by DODK911
My Academy is better then yours!!!!! Who cares!? The only thing that counts is that we are all BLUE!!!!!

Stay Safe.
The post was about which academy was harder, not better.



Posted by: 78thrifleman

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock
This is like asking "Which toilet paper is softest?" Their all soft, some just more so than others.

Ugh.... why'd you have to bring up anything to do with toilets?



Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

Do you have a problem with toilets?



Posted by: DODK911

HPD104,

Sorry for the mix up, just change better to harder. Now are we all still BLUE? ummmm, YUP we are. LOL... Stay Safe.



Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

The best academy is Dunkin Donuts Academy because what ever academy you complete. In 5 to 10 years your going to be a useless and overweight. Ask DCS2244 about how it happened to him



Posted by: nightcopppa

Where is the best academy? The MBTA



Posted by: Mongo

Who are they?



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by HPD104
Which academy is the toughest???
The toughest one to swallow had to be Police Academy 4, Citizens on Patrol.



Posted by: Bravo2-7

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
The toughest one to swallow had to be Police Academy 4, Citizens on Patrol.
What about that odorous pile of feces, Police Academy:Mission to Moscow



Posted by: Piper

I went to the Waltham Police Academy 12 years ago, they still putting out classes?



Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

Not anymore.



Posted by: Boston34

Agawam



Posted by: Gil

Added MBTA to the poll, that's the only academy that we usually send guys to. I went to Plymouth and it was a joke. lol just kidding Lenny.....



Posted by: Opie

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
The toughest one to swallow had to be Police Academy 4, Citizens on Patrol.
I'll have to disagree...The one where they went to Moscow had to take the cake!



Posted by: Mitpo62

Plymouth? My fingers still haven't healed!



Posted by: Opie

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gil
I went to Plymouth and it was a joke. lol just kidding Lenny.....
Ply...Ply...Ply...mouth... Sorry thinking about the place still makes me sick!



Posted by: Mitpo62

Aw shucks Opie it wasn't all THAT bad!? Look at all the reading, writing, and running we did; and look at how it applies to what we do today.........



Posted by: Opie

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62
Aw shucks Opie it wasn't all THAT bad!? Look at all the reading, writing, and running we did; and look at how it applies to what we do today.........
Ah well when you put it that way!

Oh and don't forget the spelling tests! K-H-A-K-I !!!
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Posted by: ferus fidelitas

how can you compare the academies if you only went to one ?



Posted by: Opie

Quote:
Originally Posted by ferus fidelitas
how can you compare the academies if you only went to one ?
No...one Individual can not compare every academy, but we as a group can trade stories and personal experiences, then figure out what academy sounds to be the best.



Posted by: lofu

In related news, congrats to the members of the 16th MPOC at the MBTA who graduated on Tuesday. Stay safe.



Posted by: extraining guy

Who cares



Posted by: Mitpo62

Thinking about Plymouth..........everytime I see a gray(ish) Crown Vic I start to tremble, prespire, with knees knocking. Uuuuu-raaah!



Posted by: 1212jjj

Are you kidding, go to some of the different ones and take classes. The recruits are only squared away at the T and Lowell. The others are not even close. Give me a break, not even close to those two. We have sent guys to almost every one and you can tell from the stories how much of a joke they are. I heard the T has even got soft as of late.

Why is Lowell not on there? I didn't attend Lowell but if should be on the list. How about you just put the T and Lowell since having the others is kinda funny.



Posted by: ferus fidelitas

the police academies all seem to have gotten soft over the past 15 years or so. That opinion is based on my conversations with newer officers... alot more politically correct too.... very misguided... when I graduated I knew that I EARNED the job... not like that anymore for new guys..



Posted by: Gil

Quote:
Originally Posted by ferus fidelitas
the police academies all seem to have gotten soft over the past 15 years or so. That opinion is based on my conversations with newer officers... alot more politically correct too.... very misguided... when I graduated I knew that I EARNED the job... not like that anymore for new guys..

Could you clarify "EARNED" for all of us that attended the make believe academies that just rubber stamped our certificates?



Posted by: kencop93

Everyone always says " When I went to the academy it was the toughest." So everyone has their own opinions and maybe thier academy was tough for them.. Well the days of 12-16 hr academy days are long gone.. God Bless the guys and gals that run academies now.. They do their best with what the kindler, gentler MCJTC allows them to do.. My opinion , Is that the Plymouth Academy of the late 80's early 90's was always the toughest. They were run by Troopers from the MSP academy. Good luck to anyone in or going to any academy.. and God Bless thier instructors.....



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by kencop93
Everyone always says " When I went to the academy it was the toughest." So everyone has their own opinions and maybe thier academy was tough for them.. Well the days of 12-16 hr academy days are long gone.. God Bless the guys and gals that run academies now.. They do their best with what the kindler, gentler MCJTC allows them to do.. My opinion , Is that the Plymouth Academy of the late 80's early 90's was always the toughest. They were run by Troopers from the MSP academy. Good luck to anyone in or going to any academy.. and God Bless thier instructors.....
A police academy diploma is your license to be a police officer. Learning how to actually do the job comes from working the street, and what academy you attended is damn near irrelevant.



Posted by: HPD104

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
A police academy diploma is your license to be a police officer. Learning how to actually do the job comes from working the street, and what academy you attended is damn near irrelevant.
Thats a good analogy. I never thought if that way but i totally agree..



Posted by: trel

...where is Lowell in that poll???



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by trel
...where is Lowell in that poll???
My alma mater (Waltham) was also left out, but from what I understand they don't run basic recruit classes anymore.



Posted by: alphadog1

After the death of a recruit at the Agawam Academy in 1988, all the police academies went soft. The academies are gentler, kinder and more importantly the standards getting into the academy are a joke!



Posted by: lab276

I graduated the Lowell Police Academy and have gone on to teach at some of the other regional academies. Yes, Flemming is a psycho when it comes to running, but it also is a great mental test for some. As for Reading - bring your golf clubs because that's about as much PT as you'll do up there; Boylston - need I say more than your out of shape female Lt. from Framingham leading the bunch - when she shows up! Everyone forgets about Worcester PD though. They're definite old school and eliminate the ass draggers that should never make it on the street ~ unlike the MPTC regional academies that basically have no standards anymore!



Posted by: wgciv

This is a trick question.... none of those academies are tough. Unfortunately the municipal academies have become too lax and too laid back, with their standards being almost non existant. The municipal academy is in need of drastic changes and should use the MSP academy as a model.



Posted by: smilly217

I would have to say from experience and what I've heard. The MSP academy is the toughest and BPD is second to that. The physical standards to get into the academy are a joke, but once you're in the academy you can't pretend that you can run miles, score good grades and be disciplined. If you did fake it, then good luck on the street, because there's no faking it on the street (that's how people die). I've heard that other municipal academies have optional PT is that true?



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by smilly217
I would have to say from experience and what I've heard. The MSP academy is the toughest and BPD is second to that. The physical standards to get into the academy are a joke, but once you're in the academy you can't pretend that you can run miles, score good grades and be disciplined. If you did fake it, then good luck on the street, because there's no faking it on the street (that's how people die). I've heard that other municipal academies have optional PT is that true?
Unless someone has graduated from every single police academy in the state, they're totally unqualified to pass judgment on which is "tougher" or "harder".

In the end, it doesn't matter anyway. A police academy diploma is your license to be a police officer. You'll eventually learn the important things from your FTO and from experience....especially your fuck-ups.



Posted by: Mitpo62

So true Delta. I never understood how some guy yelling in your face is going to make you a better or tougher cop. Compassion, common sense, and a sense of humor are key(s)!



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62
So true Delta. I never understood how some guy yelling in your face is going to make you a better or tougher cop.
That crap is necessary in the military, where you can't question or second-guess orders. Out on the street in a one-man car, you're the one making the decisions and giving the orders. You can't second-guess yourself.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62
Compassion, common sense, and a sense of humor are key(s)!
A very wise 40-year veteran of the Boston PD (now deceased) told me the exact same thing when I was a retarded 20-something, and it's always stuck with me.



Posted by: serpico

If this post is going to be re-occuring can you please add the Lowell Police Academy to the list.



Posted by: wgciv

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
Unless someone has graduated from every single police academy in the state, they're totally unqualified to pass judgment on which is "tougher" or "harder".

In the end, it doesn't matter anyway. A police academy diploma is your license to be a police officer. You'll eventually learn the important things from your FTO and from experience....especially your fuck-ups.
Agree, couldn't be said any better..... Thread Over!



Posted by: DPD77

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62
So true Delta. I never understood how some guy yelling in your face is going to make you a better or tougher cop. Compassion, common sense, and a sense of humor are key(s)!
Of all the courses academies teach there's only one they can't and that is "Common Sense" if you have that you'll do fine and do well in your new career. MBTA academy here, who can forget "Frank the Tank" and his protege "Hanson" two of the best DI's



Posted by: Ptlm. King

Weymouth academy overall was a joke, execpt for the PT. Don't know how it is now.....



Posted by: sempergumby

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ptlm. King
Weymouth academy overall was a joke, execpt for the PT. Don't know how it is now.....
Cake walk except for PT mild cake walk if you had intestinal fortitude



Posted by: daveyo77

Not sure which is the toughest? It all depends on what shape you go into it and even if you're in great shape, there will be areas that you'll struggle with. Obviously, some focus more on the books and other's focus a little more on the PT, either way its totally up to the individual. Whatever one you attend, if you make it through, you'll probably say that's the hardest/best one!
I am currently attending the Reading Academy and its great! I'm really happy and lucky to have the chance to be there. They have a great program and even better instructors! I know that the bigger academy's probably bash them because they are a smaller facility, but they are really a class act. Our class is a great group of men & women! So I guess I'm a little bias, but if you get a chance to attend the Reading Academy, you won't be let down. We just finished week 6, so we have a long way to go, but its been a terrific experience so far and I'm confident that I'm getting some of the best training in the state from a wide variety of extremely squared away instructors! If you're going to be heading to Reading for the next round and have questions, let me know if I can help. Go 15th!



Posted by: Mitpo62

Ladies and gentlemen please! Lets cease this discussion because in the end we all know it is P L Y M O U T H ! ! Uuuuuraaah baby!



Posted by: soup

This question is sort of like, "What's the toughest year of marriage?"

THE ONE YOU'RE IN.



Posted by: Macop

Last time I checked when you graduate the certificate is the same.



Posted by: copchika911

Boylston has an outstanding DT program. DiChaira and Barbale really know their shit! The academics weren't all too challenging - if you studied you got good grades - same with anything. The PT was inbetween. They worked you hard some days - others they were a little easier on you. Each person will rate their academy as the best because we all worked our asses off to get through it. For some people it was easy - others it was tough. All and all - it's what you make of it. No matter what academy you go through - make it worth it. It's a great expereince and it makes you part of the family.

Good Luck!!



Posted by: Mitpo62

Plymouth! Plymouth! Plymouth!



Posted by: Dan8784

I graduated in a SSPO class. The PT was very demanding, as well as the discipline. The academics on the other hand were not too bad.



Posted by: SinePari

NH and CT have the right idea...one academy for all officers. We all enforce the same laws, right? Then you get "fine-tuned" during your FTO period.



Posted by: Delta784

Unless someone has gone through every police academy in the state, then no one is qualified to answer this question definitively; it's all "I heard this" or "My friend said that".

Quote:
Originally Posted by SinePari
NH and CT have the right idea...one academy for all officers. We all enforce the same laws, right? Then you get "fine-tuned" during your FTO period.
Maine also has one academy for everyone. The warden service and some other agencies have specialized training after that, but everyone goes through the same basic academy training.



Posted by: CHICwithBADGE

Getting yelled and screamed at by a DI at the academy instills discipline and prepares you for the verbal abuse you'll encounter on the streets. If you can't take a little ridicule and some name calling by the DIs, you have no business being a cop (WAAA, he yelled at me!!!!). Go home to mommy then because the dirtbag won't hold your hand and sing cumbaya. Yes common sense is essential and compassion is needed in some cirumstance but it's the discipline and attention to detail that will keep you alive NOT the politically correct, touchy feely, community policing trends that are being taught today at some academies. Did I hurt your feelings?



Posted by: mcpd704

I went through the Transit (MBTA) academy, I found it to be difficult even though I am a Army vet with 10 years under my belt. But I must say that I have heard a lot of horror stories about the MSP Academy too.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHICwithBADGE
Getting yelled and screamed at by a DI at the academy instills discipline and prepares you for the verbal abuse you'll encounter on the streets.
A couple of weeks of the screaming and yelling routine is good enough to weed out the problem children. After that, it's stupid, counterproductive, and based more on making the trainers feel good about themselves than producing police officers who are decisive, can think on their feet and have compassion towards the citizenry.

People who scream at me on the street end up in handcuffs; after the first couple of weeks, leave that for the role-playing scenarios at the end of the training cycle.



Posted by: JoninNH

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
A couple of weeks of the screaming and yelling routine is good enough to weed out the problem children. After that, it's stupid, counterproductive, and based more on making the trainers feel good about themselves than producing police officers who are decisive, can think on their feet and have compassion towards the citizenry.
After the first week we were done being verbally shit on. If you screwed up, you paid for it, or worse the class paid for it. While I am all for military discipline in the academy, I like to think I learned alot by not having to...

1. Raise my hand and wait to be recognized.
2. Stand and come to attention
3. Recite "Sir, Student Officer X, requests permission to ask a question."
Permission granted.
4. Continue "Sir, why would an inventory search be constitutionally..."
5. Remain standing while the question was answered.
6. When the instructor finished, "Sir, thank you sir," and wait for permission to sit (or instructions to drop).

How many people do you think are interested in asking a question in that enviroment?

Don't get me wrong, I don't want student officers sitting slouched over in thier seats acting disrespectful, but I saw nothing wrong with waiting to be recognized, standing, asking a question, and then sitting back down... or even with the instructors who told us not to stand to ask questions.



Posted by: SinePari

Stop, just stop. If you haven't been to all of them you have no way to judge what's productive or not. All that matters is who's standing next to you on graduation day.



Posted by: JoninNH

Deep breaths Sine, deep breaths.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by SinePari
Stop, just stop. If you haven't been to all of them you have no way to judge what's productive or not.
I well remember what I felt like after 10 weeks of being screamed at and blasted for every miniscule violation in Army basic training; I certainly wasn't confident, decisive, and compassionate.



Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoninNH
After the first week we were done being verbally shit on. If you screwed up, you paid for it, or worse the class paid for it. While I am all for military discipline in the academy, I like to think I learned alot by not having to...

1. Raise my hand and wait to be recognized.
2. Stand and come to attention
3. Recite "Sir, Student Officer X, requests permission to ask a question."
Permission granted.
4. Continue "Sir, why would an inventory search be constitutionally..."
5. Remain standing while the question was answered.
6. When the instructor finished, "Sir, thank you sir," and wait for permission to sit (or instructions to drop).

How many people do you think are interested in asking a question in that enviroment?

Don't get me wrong, I don't want student officers sitting slouched over in thier seats acting disrespectful, but I saw nothing wrong with waiting to be recognized, standing, asking a question, and then sitting back down... or even with the instructors who told us not to stand to ask questions.
Dito!!!

I had to debrief myself and realize I did not join the marines and we were police officers not soldiers at war.



Posted by: Mitpo62

My apologies for ringing the same bell, but the marks of a good police officer are common sense, a sense of humor, and compassion. These are not learned traits; you either have or you don't.



Posted by: 5-0

You are all wrong. The toughest academy is obviously 'The Academy' on television.



Posted by: SinePari

Just so there are no mistruths spread around here, there is a very good academic program at the SPA. That's all I'll say to keep the newbies/wannabees guessing how things are done.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by SinePari View Post
Just so there are no mistruths spread around here, there is a very good academic program at the SPA.
I don't think that's ever been disputed.



Posted by: HOLLYROCK50

MBTA!!! I don't know how it is now but when I went through (2nd M.P.O.C., 1999), they tried to bring back the old style of doing things. Most of the guys I work with told me their academies were more of a daycare than a training class.



Posted by: Kilvinsky

None of you can ever imagine what the Somerville Police Academy was like back in 1981. I can't believe I made it through alive. Toughest instructors going and mean! One guy, I don't recall his name, nearly killed the entire class. You ever come close to dying from BOREDOM? I bet not, but we sure did. And those Munchkins after PT were just too much to take, but dammit, we needed something to go with the coffee, right? One of the toughest descisions every day was, where to have lunch. Actually, that was only tough the first week. After that we had a few spots and just changed up. Union Square loved my class, all 24 of us.

Truthfully, some terrific people and some really great academics, but when I hear about what academies have become, I just chuckle to myself. We didn't kill ourselves, we didn't get yelled at and we didn't have foolish crap done to us, we just went to school and learned and dammit, overall, we had a pretty good time while doing it. There were improvements that could have been, and maybe should have been made, but we all did just fine overall.



Posted by: LawMan3

The SPA should be the universal police academy for the entire state...enough of the regional academies. Same training, same P.T., same academics. Then we wouldn't need to have a pissing contest about who's academy was better.

That's my two cents...



Posted by: Malibulxi

Hey everyone, I'm new to this site. I'm a certified full time police officer in Louisiana, however, I moved up to Maine and attended their "Part Time Academy" I worked for a PD in the area, but I'm not to overally thrilled with Maine. I'm originally from Massachusetts, so I'm thinking about going back down there and putting myself through one of the Basic Recruit Academies, because nobody seems to recognize Louisiana's POST Academy.

I'm debating between Reading and Boylston. I have issues with my legs fracturing while running too much, its a condition that my doctors say cannot be avoided. I'm not fat or anything, and I try to run 2-3 times per week, or at least take long walks. Out of those two academies, which would be better for the PT/Running? **I hope people don't think I'm just trying to pussy out of the running**



Posted by: chief801

No mention of the now defunct Needham Academy! I enjoyed lunch time trivia with the good Corporal...



Posted by: daxxkid

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malibulxi View Post
Hey everyone, I'm new to this site. I'm a certified full time police officer in Louisiana, however, I moved up to Maine and attended their "Part Time Academy" I worked for a PD in the area, but I'm not to overally thrilled with Maine. I'm originally from Massachusetts, so I'm thinking about going back down there and putting myself through one of the Basic Recruit Academies, because nobody seems to recognize Louisiana's POST Academy.

I'm debating between Reading and Boylston. I have issues with my legs fracturing while running too much, its a condition that my doctors say cannot be avoided. I'm not fat or anything, and I try to run 2-3 times per week, or at least take long walks. Out of those two academies, which would be better for the PT/Running? **I hope people don't think I'm just trying to pussy out of the running**
Defenatly not the T Academy for you, from what I hear, not sure if it's going to happen anywhere else besides the Transit Academy, you have to do 70% of PT or you are out, I was told it's rule from the MCJTC. Good luck to you.



Posted by: GD

[quote=Malibulxi;310445]Hey everyone, I'm new to this site.quote]

Welcome!!



Posted by: Kilvinsky

Welcome back to New England and probably to Mass., Malibulxi. We welcome back all ex-patriots with open arms. Best of luck getting on a job. Don't give up but also don't limit your choices. Keep looking around for departments that accept the Louisiana academy.



Posted by: Malibulxi

It's not a question of a Department accepting it, its the state. And from what I understand, the State doesn't really recognize many other states certifications. What do people know about the new SPA academy for Municipal Officers and its PT regiment?





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