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Posted by: BostonSoxWorldChamps

Can any one tell me which hospitals and colleges have security departments?
Also options on them, what they are allowed to do and carry?

Posted by: Belker

Umass Medical in Worcester carry's and also Memorial Hospital Sgt'S carry also in Worcester.

Posted by: BostonSoxWorldChamps

Edit: Can any one tell me which hospitals and colleges have security departments that are in the greater Boston area?

Also your options on them, what they are allowed to do and carry on their belts (mace,cuffs,baton)?

Posted by: fscpd903

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Originally Posted by BostonSoxWorldChamps

Can any one tell me which hospitals and colleges have security departments?
Also options on them, what they are allowed to do and carry?

Most state and community colleges have positions called Institutional Security Officer (ISO) or Institutional Protection Officers (IPO). They would fall under the Police Departments and are an actual position in the state system. Most would carry nothing and are usually just responsible for securing academic buildings and such, however some colleges use ISO's as dormitory front desk security as well. PM me if you have any specific questions.

Posted by: Varanus224

Short List in Boston for hospitals that have their own security depts, not contract, although some of these may have contract with them as well:
Beth Isreal, they have police to
MGH, they have Police and Security Dept
Boston Medical, BUMC, some oficers have special police powers
Faulkner Hospital
Brigham and Womens, although it may be contract under Pinkerton
St Elizabeth's
New England Medical Center, NEMC

theres a short list have to love being in a city with hospitals every 50 yard

Posted by: HPD104

Emerson Hospital which is concord, is a security department. The hospital treats you like shit, but the pay is pretty decent. You don't carry anything tho. I used to work there until i went full time on the PD...

Posted by: Deputydog522

Beth Isreal Hospital has police and they do carry.
They are the only hospital in Boston that carries firearms. Its a touigh job to get. They are currently looking for Public Safety Officer's and a Dispatcher, you may wanna put in for those and get in there and its a good way to get on the Police side.

Posted by: HELPMe

suffolk has their own security. I was told that the only way to get on suffolk pd is to actually get hired from their security department.

Most colleges now adays unless its a state school or a private school with alot of $$ will contract out. Securita's, allied, control, etc all do dorms.

Posted by: BostonSoxWorldChamps

Thanks guys, I have applied to a couple of schools and hospitals and a couple contract security companies, and I have gotten interviews on almost all of them. I'll let you guys know which job I take.

So ya is it true if you get on a schools security dept you have a good shot of getting on their PD?

Posted by: HPD104

[/quote]So ya is it true if you get on a schools security dept you have a good shot of getting on their PD?[/quote]

I would say so. Most departments like to hire candidate's they can trust,and who have proven themselves as a good employee. I think you'll be good man, good luck and stay safe.

Posted by: ponyboy

Cambridge Health Alliance has it's own security and Police. They are allowed to carry OC,Cuffs,and Baton. Either PR-24 or straight baton so as long as your trained on them.

Posted by: BostonSoxWorldChamps

Whats is Cambridge Health Alliance?
I have never heard of them.

Posted by: RPD931

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Originally Posted by Varanus224

Short List in Boston for hospitals that have their own security depts, not contract, although some of these may have contract with them as well:
Beth Isreal, they have police too - Police Officers and Security Officers have seperate duties
MGH, they have Police and Security Dept - SSPO's
Boston Medical/BUMC, some oficers have special police powers
Faulkner Hospital - SSPO's
Brigham and Womens, although it may be contract under Pinkerton - Investigators are Brigham employees, not contract and are SPO's. I think some of the contract officers are Boston Specials.
St Elizabeth's - SSPO's
New England Medical Center, NEMC - Police & Security Dept. - SSPO's

theres a short list have to love being in a city with hospitals every 50 yard

My added text in red.

Posted by: ponyboy

Cambridge Health Alliance main campus is in Cambridge. They also have The Somerville Hospital,and several clinics in Revere,Cambridge,Somerville and Everett. The security in Cambridge are constables in Cambridge. The Police are SSPO's giving them Police Power's on their properties on the aforementioned location's.

Posted by: daveh

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Originally Posted by fscpd903

Most state and community colleges have positions called Institutional Security Officer (ISO) or Institutional Protection Officers (IPO).

It may be worthy to note too that sometimes they are actually paid more than state CPOs. A sad but true fact. Go to the state HRD website and enter CPO, ISO, or IPO under the search tool to see what positions are open. You can narrow the search by area (Boston).

Hope that helps.

Posted by: BostonSoxWorldChamps

What are SSPO's?

Posted by: hubble

seared steaks with potatoes and onions

Posted by: BostonSoxWorldChamps

Funny hahahaha...not.

Posted by: fscpd907

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Originally Posted by BostonSoxWorldChamps

What are SSPO's?

Check the link:

http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=eopssubt...cers&sid=Eeops

Posted by: BostonSoxWorldChamps

Thanks. I got an interview with Faulkner and they didnt mention anything about SSPO, they must have a security department also I am guessing.

Posted by: BostonSoxWorldChamps

Does any one know about the Stanford personality test, I think its called? Have you taken it?

Posted by: RPD931

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Originally Posted by BostonSoxWorldChamps

Thanks. I got an interview with Faulkner and they didnt mention anything about SSPO, they must have a security department also I am guessing.

At Boston Hospitals, Security is NOT seperate from Police. They are all in the SAME department. The only significant factor regarding this would be at Beth Israel Hospital were the duties of security officers and police officers are different - but they are still the same department (public safety). At Faulkner and most other Boston Hospitals most of the Security Officers are SSPO's, but everyone has basically the same duties. Not all places require you to become an SSPO but it's usually the preference.

Posted by: Mitpo62

The winds of change are blowing at BIDMC; "we're going in a different direction."

Posted by: CampusOfficer

Yeah, MITPO, what is going on at your old stomping grounds? There are rumors flying all over the place!!!

Posted by: masscopguy

Here is what I think I know.

1. Faulkner Hospital is a great place. I worked there on an on call basis. For a relatively small hospital they have a large staff. Some guys wear a duty belt with everything but an asp. Some guys just wear the uniform polo type shirt ( there logo looks just like the Boston PD badge) and black pants and carry a radio. The pay is not that great. I got a couple bucks more an hour because I did last minute on call work. They get a lot of drunks and mental patients. When they have someone on constant watch they call Reliable Security in to watch them, so you are never really at a fixed post for a long period.
The Security Director is a real easy going nice guy and the younger guy who manages weekends is very good to work with. I didn't interact with management, but I know the nurses love the security department. Some of the Faulkner guys are Boston Specials because they were before they were hired. I don't believe they will pay for the class. But if you pay for the class and pass the test they will let you work as a special but I don't think you get paid more.

2. Brigham and Womens owns Faulkner but they don't have their own security department. It is contracted out to Securitas. They do have their own guy who does investigations.

3. BIMDC has they reputation of having an excellent full PD. The Public Safety officers do the security work. The starting pay is a low about 11.25 an hour but there is always a ton of overtime. I knew a young guy who went from to security to the PD after 2 years. I think they may be sending him to the FT academy.

4. MGH also has a great security and PD but it is hard to get in. NEMC pays about 11 an hour to start which is very low for all the work you do.

5. Cambridge Health Alliance runs the Cambridge City Hospital, Somerville Hospital and the Whiden in Everett. Everett has Securitas. Cambridge City is owned by the City, so you are Cambridge City Employee.

6. They Quincy Medical Center pays very well. Newton Wellesley is a good spot. I know a guy who left there a year ago to become an Amtrak Cop.

5. Newton Wellesley and the Winchester are always looking for people. Winchester is a nice quite place.

6. Fisher College and Simmons have Public Safety Officers which are security. Both have Police Officers.

7. SSP means Special State Police. The SP runs an academy but you have to be sponsored. You can also be appointed a SSP officer if you have an AA in CJ, the RI academy and a certain number of work hours under your belt. All the state institutions are SSP. Emerson College is SSP, some of the Regis guys are SSP along with many other private schools. Emerson uses Securitas to stand in the dorm entrances etc.. Harvard had the their own security department but they have been fazing it out as guys retire. Most of the security work is done by either Securitas or Watts. I worked over there part time for a year for Securitas and it wasn't that bad The pay was 14.25 an hour. You delt with Harvard people and very rarely heard from Securitas. When they had a function, I would just sit in the back of the room and the food service department always fed you at the end of the night. Securitas lost the building to Eastern Security and I left after 2 weekends. I would put Eastern Security on the list of the top 5 worst security companies in the city. The guy who owns it is literally nuts.

Posted by: DirtyHarry

Sounds like you you have been everywhere!

Posted by: Mitpo62

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Originally Posted by CampusOfficer

Yeah, MITPO, what is going on at your old stomping grounds? There are rumors flying all over the place!!!

I have been advised that the police chief and administration "have parted ways." It is my understanding, through "unconfirmed reports" that the administration has decided to "go in a different direction." What does all this mean? Who knows. I think it is still a good place to go; the pay and benefits are good, especially for a private organization. It's all what you make of it I suppose.

Posted by: masscopguy

Dear Dirty Harry,

I worked part time at the Harvard/ Kennedy School of Governement for 2 years (which is like 10 years in contract security years) and I did on call fill in work at the Faulkner Hospital for about a 14 months.

I don't think I would consider that as having worked everywhere. Would you?

Posted by: KSB

Is Boston Medical center increasing the security staff? I see alot of construction on Albany st, and Harrison ave.

Posted by: Lexcadet

just checkout their websites.. they have everything you need to know

Posted by: 48Weeks

Quote:

Originally Posted by HELPMe

suffolk has their own security. I was told that the only way to get on suffolk pd is to actually get hired from their security department.

Most colleges now adays unless its a state school or a private school with alot of $$ will contract out. Securita's, allied, control, etc all do dorms.

SUPD used to hire "Police Trainees". In the late 90's their Security Dept expanded and they only hire Security now. They promote to Police Trainee from within the Security Guard ranks. No guns, but decent money. 403B, employee can pay up to 14% and school throws in another 9%. You won't see a lot of movement after reaching Patrol Officer however, as the Corporals, Sgts, LT and Chief aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Cushy job once you get Corporal and above as the Patrol Officers and Security Guards man the desks at the dorms etc. Corporals and above get to move around a bit and aren't stationary guards. Again, decent money and a Chief that will do everything NOT to screw you. Stay safe.

Posted by: K.Lavoie

As posted previously, MGH has a Police & Security Department. We all do the same job, except the Officers who hold the SSPO warrant can make the actual arrests.
We all carry cuffs& OC. The dept. we be going into the baton very soon, training has already been scheduled for a few officers. They will complete this process a few officers at a time.

Posted by: lofu

Glad to hear the guys/girls at MGH are getting batons. Another tool to make your job easier and safer. Take care of those 10-9's.

Posted by: Q5-TPR

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Originally Posted by Deputydog522

Beth Isreal Hospital has police and they do carry.
They are the only hospital in Boston that carries firearms. Its a touigh job to get. They are currently looking for Public Safety Officer's and a Dispatcher, you may wanna put in for those and get in there and its a good way to get on the Police side.

Not so fast Deputydog. The Dept of Veterans Affairs Hospital in Jamaica Plain and West Roxbury have ARMED Federal Police Officers. The Beretta 92D in 9mm I believe is the flavor on that side of So Huntington Ave

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