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The Associated Press




MISSOULA - A man who lied to his probation officer about having served in the military was ordered to stand outside the courthouse wearing a sandwich board that says: "I am a liar. I am not a Marine."

William C. Horvath, 35, of Whitefish, pleaded guilty to making false statements, a felony.

U.S. District Judge Donald Molloy sentenced him to four months of house arrest and four years of probation. He also ordered him to stand outside the courthouse for 50 hours wearing the sandwich board with the message.

On the back, it must read: "I have never served my country. I have dishonored veterans of all wars."

Molloy, a veteran himself, also ordered Horvath to write letters of apology to newspapers, the U.S. Marine Corps, Veterans of Foreign Wars and the American Legion in Kalispell. The judge said Horvath must admit in the letters that he lied repeatedly about serving and being wounded.

According to a news release from the U.S. attorney's office, Horvath claimed during an interview with a probation officer on Aug. 9, 2001, that he had served in the Marine Corps. The officer was gathering information on Horvath on a prior charge of being a fugitive in possession of firearms or ammunition.

The probation officer then attempted to verify Horvath's military service, but was told by the Marine Corps that there was no record of Horvath ever having served.

Horvath then presented the probation officer with evidence of his time in the military, including photographs and decorations. However, Marine Corps representatives told the probation officer that the evidence contained a variety of inconsistencies.

One of the problems: He was wearing his uniform improperly.



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Posted by: mikemac64

They should have forced him to enlist.

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Posted by: sempergumby

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Originally Posted by mikemac64 They should have forced him to enlist.

No way a shit bag like that deserves the honor of wearing any military uniform least of all a Marine uniform.

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Posted by: mikemac64

Being one myself i concur. However, I was thinking of the irony.

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Posted by: creeperjeep

make him join the army, theyll take anyone

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Posted by: redpara

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Originally Posted by creeperjeep make him join the army, theyll take anyone

creeperjeep, this is pretty much directed at you. Have you been to Iraq? Have you been anywhere or are you a state-side jarhead? The last time I checked the papers most charges for rape-murder in country were against marines (yes I didn't capitalize on purpose as the "purps" do not deserve the title "Marine", this includes the officers who have covered the report up).

Don't go into the speel about more aggressive training etc. The army units I've been associated with would make Chesty wince.

You are right, the army will take anyone........ apparently so will the Marines.

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Posted by: creeperjeep

Ha,
Thats kinda why its funny since I am in the Middle East, and Ive spent my last 8-9 months in Kuwait and Iraq.
The best part is that Im not a jarhead. Im in the Army

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Posted by: redpara

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Originally Posted by creeperjeep Ha, Thats kinda why its funny since I am in the Middle East, and Ive spent my last 8-9 months in Kuwait and Iraq. Tcreeperjeephe best part is that Im not a jarhead. Im in the Army

Creeperjeep,

Interesting! And again my response wasn't aimed as a dig against the Marines in general and more importantly those over there now.

I returned from the Mosel/TalAfar playground about 10 months ago. Where are you (or were you) in Kuwait; Arafjan? What a pit, spent a week there on the way home, nice Starbucks huh?

Good luck and an early welcome back.

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Posted by: creeperjeep

Im still here,
It still blows, starbucks cant make up for anything.
Ill be here for a little while longer, Im in Kuwait at Ali AB right now.

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Posted by: redpara

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Originally Posted by creeperjeep Im still here, It still blows, starbucks cant make up for anything. Ill be here for a little while longer, Im in Kuwait at Ali AB right now.

Hopefully on your ride home you'll luck out like we did; flew into Shannon airport in Ireland instead of Germany......the stout was flowing and it was a three hour layover.

Good luck

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