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Posted by: q5_po

To all the Troopers out there, I saw something this morning that I haven't seen before. I was on my way home from work this morning on Rt 9 in Dedham. I saw a SP cruiser that said Incident Response Unit on the fender instead of State Police. The cruiser was all dark blue with the SP seal on the door. No light bar, but it had a push bar with blues and was all tinted out. I havent seen a solid blue SP cruiser before. Just wondering what it was. Any light to be shed?

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Posted by: mpd61

Q5
You sure it wasn't a DOC car? They have what looks like MSP seal on door but oohh.....not really trooper car!

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Posted by: Mikey682

Q5- I asked that question a few months ago on the board and I think the conclusion was it had something to do with the SATURN program. Ive seen one at my college periodically and in Eastern Mass also.

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Posted by: PearlOnyx

Actually, I saw something similar to a State Police Cruiser last week, but it Said Department of Corrections on the back. It wasn't the standard Mass DOC paint job though. This was a brand new out of the box car as well. Might be a new DOC paint scheme or an out of state car. Looked very similar to what you describe though.

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Posted by: JP64

I think I saw a new DOC cruiser at Waltham Court the other day. Gray/silver paint job with navy blue side striping with the DOC shield in the door, and Dept. Of Corrections over the stripe in the door. Whelen four strobe light bar. It was something along that line. Pretty sharp.

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Posted by: michaelbos

Hey Q, to many Overtime on last half shifts, your see things

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Posted by: tomahawk

I saw an unusual patch on eBay tonight, too, link and pic below...

-Mike

eBay Auction

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Posted by: q5_po

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Originally posted by michaelbos: Hey Q, to many Overtime on last half shifts, your see things

<font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Uncle Mike, you may be right. However, I'm posative it was MSP. I gotta good look at the door seal. Almost snapped my neck looking. It was heading into boston at that time (around 7am). Like I said, it had INCIDENT RESPONSE UNIT on the fender (no criser ID #) and the round MSP seal on the door. No light bar, but it did have a push bar with blues. It was a solid dark blue all the way around. It looked like a brand new vic. I have seen the new DOC cars, but this was not one of them. [img]graemlins/disappointed.gif[/img]

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Posted by: Muggsy09

Pretty cool patch I'd like to find out more about this Incident Response Unit. This is all new to me.

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Posted by: PearlOnyx

Someone said this might have something to do with the SATURN program. Interestingly enough, I went to the Terrorism Response Course with the State Police last week, and the instructors (Troopers) didn't know anything about it. Someone had asked about it, and the Trooper said "I don't really know anything about it. Not really sure what's going on with that".

I found it strange that these guys wouldn't know anything about it, when their teaching a Terrorism course through the state police. There doesn't seem to be very much information about this out there at all. The website consists pretty much of a bulliten and some awareness information. Not really much "So here's what were doing to make you safer" type stuff. I'd be interested to find out what is going on with this program and what our money is being spent on.

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Posted by: Wolfman

Not a new cruiser, finally got a spy pic of one at MHQ...

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Posted by: MCOA41

About SATRUN,
Everyone I know out in Western Mass knows nothing about what is going on the SATURN program. Outside of the recent LEAPS print outs about some stuff (STAURN 1, 2 & 3 under news file) and the initial class Jajuga put on about a year ago throughout the state nothing is going on. None of the training that was promised has happened.
I have taken some homeland security classes and some terrorism awareness course and to tell you the truth they were nothing more the a short hazmat class with alot of "I do not know's" from the instructors.

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Posted by: rpdmounted

Hey, tell me that new MSP car under masstroopers post doesn't have a code 3 rotating light bar. To go from Whelen strobes to that is a little depressing.... I know the budget is tight for everyone this year...but that is ridiculous!

And Q5_PO; What the heck are you talking about??? Did the seal say Massachusetts State Police on it? That is a Commonwealth seal on the door, and it is used by some other agencies.javascript:void(0)
Big Grin

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Posted by: Muggsy09

RPDMOUNTED... GOOD POINT WHATS NEXT THE OLD 2 BIG BLUE BUBBLEGUM MACHINES WITH THE CHAINS ON THE ROOF. [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/moon.gif[/img]

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Posted by: q5_po

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Originally posted by rpdmounted: And Q5_PO; What the heck are you talking about??? Did the seal say Massachusetts State Police on it? That is a Commonwealth seal on the door, and it is used by some other agencies.javascript:void(0) Big Grin

<font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Jeff, the seal did say Ma State Police! It was the regular door seal, the one on all the marked cars.

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Posted by: j809

Tomahawk,

The patch you have listed is a patch representing the City of Boston Department of Public Safety. I had one of their guys show up at our MPOC firearms week and he qualified with us all week. He was driving a white unmarked crown vic brand new with blue light but had a MB Official plate. Last I checked MB are the Municipal Boston plates similar to the regular official plates. Anyways, this kid acted like he was the STate Police, but the more we spoke with him, the more we didn't know who he works for. I checked with a few people and he said they work for Boston. I also have that patch and an identical one with "PUBIC SAFETY" yes, pubic. They made a mistake on the first batch of patches. I though it was a riot, so i got one for my collection.

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Posted by: q5_po

Ya, ya. You crash any cruisers latley?

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Posted by: Anonymous

I could be wrong but I think that light bar is actually a new version combo of some strobes but a lot of LED's

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Posted by: rpdmounted

Ha - I knew I'd get you going Greg!! I'm only kidding with ya'......

I'll have to keep an eye out on this end of the state for any similar cruisers. Oh, wait a minute, I forgot I patrol the land of twisty back roads and cranberry bogs......probably won't see any cars for a long time.

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Posted by: Joe B

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Originally posted by q5_po: I saw a SP cruiser that said Incident Response Unit on the fender instead of State Police. The cruiser was all dark blue with the SP seal on the door. No light bar, but it had a push bar with blues and was all tinted out. I havent seen a solid blue SP cruiser before.

<font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I saw one of these today on Rt.3S, going past the Braintree/Quincy exit. It was an older model Crown Vic, had a solid grill(92'-94'?). It had the MSP seal on the door and said "INCIDENT RESPONSE UNIT" on the driver's fender. This one had a lightbar on it.

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Posted by: JP64

Think I saw some of their officers today. On the way into work I saw a navy Expedition with white state plates and grill strobes, no markings, leading a MA ARNG truck and humvee. As I passed, since they were only going about 50, I saw that the expedition's driver was wearing dark BDU's and what looked like the incident response unit patch. Hmmm, interesting...are they hiring ....

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Posted by: mpd61

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Originally posted by whsfbl: That could have been any of a number of units, including Fire Marshall's Office or Dive Team on an Escort Detail.

<font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're right. I do know two troopers @ fire marshalls office and they were driving unmarked last time I saw them. It's kinda like the old tootsie pop answer to the question "how many licks'?.......

The world may never know
[img]tongue.gif[/img]

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Posted by: bbelichick

That could have been any of a number of units, including Fire Marshall's Office or Dive Team on an Escort Detail.

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Posted by: q5_po

MPD61, I think I saw that same vehicle yesterday. State "Official" white plates w/blue strobes in grill.

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Posted by: mpd61

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Originally posted by q5_po: MPD61, I think I saw that same vehicle yesterday. State "Official" white plates w/blue strobes in grill.

<font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">HEY NOW!

You better report to Mike G. and have him take you down to the ER for some valium!
[img]tongue.gif[/img]

Fighting 3-11 rules J.P.! Hoorah!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by: q5_po

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Originally posted by JP64: I saw a navy Expedition with white state plates and grill strobes, no markings,

<font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is the one I meant

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Posted by: Anonymous

The State Police does not have white plates just the MSP plates and the no reply plates (which are normal loooking Mass plates) ALL of the Fire Marshall bomb trucks are Black and have a red plate on the front along with a bug guard. SP vehicles never have a dealership sticker on them.. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

Hi LEOs,
Q5 I did see that same vehicle. Tomahawk yes I saw that patch I think thats what I saw good job in finding that patch. Its a pretty cool looking patch by the way.

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Posted by: rhl

HEY FOLKS, I'VE BEEN SIXTEEN YEARS ON THE MSP AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS PHANTOM VEHICLE YOU'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT. NEXT TIME, TRY TO ENGAGE HIM/HER IN CONVERSATION AND FIND OUT HIS/HER BAG. JUST ONE THING THOUGH, IF HE'S WEARING A TURBAN AND A HEAVY WINTER COAT IN THE WARM WEATHER, PREPARE FOR WAR! RHL

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Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

It could be a SATURN vehicle operated by DPS and not the MSP. Just a thought?

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Posted by: Dane

Just joined this board about a week ago and found this thread. I saw one of these Incident Response Unit cars at the first public walk through of the new I-93 NB tunnel in Boston last fall. A rather rotund gentleman wearing the tactical blacks alighted from said sled and began walking around the tunnel.

As access inside the tunnel was quite limited at this time (C/AT engineers and the SP Bomb Squad) he immediately drew our attention. When one of the boys asked him who he was, he mumbled something about being a state building inspector. He was not wearing a weapon but I think I saw a Sig Sauer level or tape measure somewhere on his web gear. When questioned about his unnecessary getup and fancy ride (a little TOO similar to ours), he gave us some drivel about having to provide emergency response to structural collapse or some other nonsense.

If I were a civilian in need of the police, I would certianly assume that this person was some type of police officer who could provide help, not a politically wired wannabe masquerading as something he wasn't.

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Posted by: dmackack

I saw that car last week in Braintree MA across from the Braintree police station getting gas lol.

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Posted by: fscpd907

The two incident response units parked at MHQ do not have the State Police decal on the door. They have the Commonwealth of Massachusetts seal with Department of Public Safety around the edge. The have white state plates with the Department of Public Safety Incident Response Unit patch under the STATE. They are fully marked units with a cage in the back. They appear to be older crown vics 95-97 with new paint jobs.

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Posted by:

The next member to see this cruiser, please take a photo and post it so we can sort of put the (name with the face) or should I say the dept with the cruiser.

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Posted by: k9wireless

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Posted by: Mikey682

Its not loading for me, so heres the link. This truck is pretty sweet looking, but the IRU cruisers I have seen have all been crown vics. Not a command-center on wheels like that one. Anyone know what that truck is about?

http://snow.prohosting.com/k9loaded/truck.jpg

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Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

Tomahawk's patch that he showed a few months back was seen by some officers I work with about a month ago. They came into Bunker Hill Com College with a crown vic with the same marking as the patch "Incident Response Unit". They rented space at the college to conduct tests for Building inspectors, Power plant engineers, Fireman/Oil techs, Pipe Fitter techs, Elevator Techs, Amusement Park licenses etc,etc,etc. apparently they are from the Executive Office of Public Safety under Director Ed Flynn Office of The Commission of licensing and inspections.
From what my coworker said they acted like they were the State Police and acted like they were so important. I am wondering if they even have police powers? They produced state police style badges, lol give me a break if they are a part of the state police then OK fine you have my reciprocal respect as a police officer and excuse me for my ignorance. But these people I felt were just appointees by Flynn and given a badge with no LE training. Anyway, apparently they rent out our auditorium monthly and conduct these certification tests. They come in with this cruiser that has the same markings as the patch Tomahawk showed. I am still wondering if these jokers have police powers of any sort?

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Posted by:

Ya Mikey the picture isnt loading for me either, I want to see this cruiser. What do these guys do? Are they like elevator inspectors or what. Thats what I'm hearing. I've never run into one to ask but when I do I will be bending his ear.

BHCCPD,

I've heard the same thing about the way they carry themselves, also if they are elevator/doorway/ foundation/electrical inspectors I believe they maybe 22c. I'm pretty sure they swear this is the case, why I dont know. So that could be the reason for the state style badge. But then again its anyones guess.

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Posted by: RPD931

This works..

http://snow.prohosting.com/k9loaded/

Had to drop the truck.jpg crap

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Posted by: fscpd907

FYI Massachusetts Incident Response Unit 100 is again parked at MHQ. I have no camera but if anyone is in the area they should swing in for a peek.

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Posted by: mpd61

Hey Now!

The Division of Professional Licensure folks are usually Compliance Officer III's. They are in charge of overseeing complaints and compliance issues for everything from Nurses, dentists etc., to real estate agents, and plumbers/pipefitters. (and about 41 flavors in between!)

They are NOT police in ANY way shape or form. A few months ago lots of them were split off and now come under DPH. They are under the state HRD Inspection/Investigation series. Also DMH/DMR/MRC and others use the series for everthing from Human rights to abuse investigators.

Perhaps in some VERY rare instances, there may be a couple of Compliance Officer types that may have been given SSPO powers, due to the nature of the job performed, and what agency they work for.............
But I doubt it.

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Posted by: tomahawk

Guys, that truck is the NEMLEC Command Post. Has nothing to do with MSP or DPS.

-Mike

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Posted by: Gregg3785

SInce whe does RT 9 go through Dedham.??

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Posted by: mopar6972

This may apply to the situation... Some sections of chp 147 were repealed, but this may have made it...

CHAPTER 147. STATE AND OTHER POLICE, AND CERTAIN POWERS AND DUTIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY

Chapter 147: Section 2 Inspectors; powers and duties; appointment as special state police

Section 2. All inspectors of the department shall have and exercise throughout the commonwealth the powers of constables, police officers and watchmen, except as to the service of civil process. The governor may command their services in suppressing riots and in preserving the peace. The commissioner may request the colonel of state police to appoint such inspectors as special state police officers and invest them with such of the powers of the state police officers as said colonel may deem advisable. The commissioner, with the approval of the governor, may authorize the inspectors of the department to carry badges, revolvers, clubs, handcuffs and twisters, or such other articles as may be required in the performance of their duties.

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Posted by:

I'm still waiting to see one of these incident response units? I've yet to see one.

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Posted by: Wolfman

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Originally Posted by Hunter I'm still waiting to see one of these incident response units? I've yet to see one.

...maybe during a parade...

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Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

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Originally Posted by Gregg3785 SInce whe does RT 9 go through Dedham.??

LOL I think Q5 means Rt1 not Rt9. Honestly I have made that mistake myself.

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