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Posted by: djgj200

I am looking at getting into LE and I am 95% sure I want to go to the Mass. State Police. My dad is a Marlborough Police officer, I have lived my entire life in Marlborough, and some of the stories I have heard from my dad working a few night shifts has 5% set aside for Marlborough. But for various reasons I am leaning towards the MSP. I have an idea on how Marlborough hires but I am clueless as to how the MSP does their thing. So I have many questions to ask so bare with me.

How likely is it to get hired by the MSP/how often do they hire? What is their process of selecting who they are going to hire? I am pretty sure they have the Quinn Bill, am I wrong? Would I need to take the Civil Service test?

I have heard the MSP have the tougest police academy in the country and saw threads here about dropouts for the academy. Can anyone give me an idea of what the academy pushes for (physical requirements)?

After you get on, what's the deal with getting your own cruiser? Do you have to have a certain number of years on before you get your own or what? Seeing what its like sharing the same cruiser with the same guys on a local level that could really care less about the condition/tidyness of the cruiser, the idea of having your own cruiser is a plus. You know what happens with that car all the time, you know that someone wont be making a mess out of it, etc. If they stick the rookies with $h!tboxes that are shared with other troopers than I could deal with that for a few years. I heard if your a trooper on the Pike, the cruisers stay at the barracks, is that true?

I know this is asking a lot but better early than too late. Answers to any of those questions is greatly appreciated.

Posted by: tazoez

Step one: Wait for exam and take it when it becomes available. MSP has their own exam for becoming a State Trooper. Some of us have been waiting patiently (I worked the really early shift today, so if I misspell please forgive me) since the last exam in 2002. The next one, maybe 07 or 08 and if your not 21 by then you have to wait for the next one (5 or 6 years).

Posted by: TypeX

just search the forum... all of those questions have been answered multiple times in different threads under 'state police'.

Posted by: djgj200

thanks for the replies, i will search for those other threads. I won't be 21 in the next year or two but I will be in college for the next few years so that will kill a lot of that time.

Posted by: badogg88

To take the civil service you have to be 21.

Posted by: Wolfman

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Originally Posted by djgj200

I am looking at getting into LE and I am 95% sure I want to go to the Mass. State Police. My dad is a Marlborough Police officer, I have lived my entire life in Marlborough, and some of the stories I have heard from my dad working a few night shifts has 5% set aside for Marlborough. ...

Just curious, you don't have a "thing" for blinky lights and that sort of stuff, do you? There was this other kid from Marlborough...

Posted by: phuzz01

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Originally Posted by Wolfman

Just curious, you don't have a "thing" for blinky lights and that sort of stuff, do you? There was this other kid from Marlborough...

I was thinking the same thing...

Posted by: USMCMP5811

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Originally Posted by phuzz01

I was thinking the same thing...

Posted by: SinePari

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Originally Posted by djgj200

thanks for the replies, i will search for those other threads. I won't be 21 in the next year or two but I will be in college for the next few years so that will kill a lot of that time.

Uncle Sam has a seat for you. The exam is pretty competetive. Example: approximately 20,000 people to the last exam in 2002, and less than 500 new Troopers will be on the road from that test. The same applies to Civil Service exams. Many test, few are hired. Point being, military points help, take as many tests around New England, and take the first job offered to you.

Posted by: 48Weeks

You do indeed get points for being in the military. If I was you I would get the degree first, and then go in the military however. The older you get, the tougher it is to go back to school. In fact, go for your masters in CJ and then go in the military. Then, with Veteran's preference (on Civil Service you only need a 70 and you will be above a non-vet with a 100/ I think the Staties give you 2 points) you will probably be hired at around age 25 and you will get an extra 25% off the bat. Also, keep in mind, the Quinn Bill won't be around for ever and what will happen is those who were already receiving Quinn money will be grandfathered in, while those getting degrees after the new regulations are set will just get a small stipend. Stay safe.

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Posted by: T4567

You get a cruiser after you complete your 3 month FTO period. You get a hand me down cruiser. The new ones go to the senior trooper, you get their old one. You don't get the best ones for a long time.

Posted by: snapdog

Your obvious first step based on my experience and what you have stated already ("My dad is a Marlborough Police Officer...") is take advantage of the nepotism factor that is right in front of you. Again, that is if you want to be Marlborough cop. Most people would give their.....to have an IN like that....

Joining the military just to get the extra points to assist in getting on the job? If that is the amount of preference that you get for local pd's then WOW I might have done that when I was in my early 20's. I didn't realize it was that much of a preference for the local pd vet candidates. From my experience, if you can't get at least a 90 on the civil service exam you should give it up....if your only landing a 72 on the exam and getting on the job instead of a candidate who scores near perfectly at a 99, then I think you are...well......you know.....

In relation to the education, if I was to do it again I would only go and get my Associates's or Bachelor's degree before inheriting my first job as a cop, because if you go and get your Bachelor's and a Master's degree or maybe two...(one of which is in CJ) then they (local PD's) have the option to say/question whether or not you will become bored on the job on a local Town PD or overqualified, etc.... The reality is....more than 50% of the local cops hired in mass go on to get additional degrees after they get on the job and CJ education in Mass is purely for more $$$$....my degrees have worked great as placemats over the years.....

Oh yeah, good luck!!!

Posted by: Pvt. Cowboy

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Originally Posted by phuzz01

I was thinking the same thing...

You guys totally beat me to the punch... He's about the same age too... hmmmmm...

Posted by: Curious EMT

Hey I got a little question...

If a Pike guy works a detail elsewhere, does he go get a Pike unit, or are there cars elsewhere?

Posted by: SinePari

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Originally Posted by Curious EMT

Hey I got a little question...

If a Pike guy works a detail elsewhere, does he go get a Pike unit, or are there cars elsewhere?

Why would he go elsewhere?
MassPike = $$$

Posted by: dcs2244

The only reason to work the turnpike is "Retails"...check the book.

Posted by: CHROMECOLT357

From what i've read MSP along with other local pd's do pretty thorogh background checks. I'm sure they check this site as well as Myspace. You might want to be careful about what you post.

Posted by: wildbill0351

Hello to all and thanks for keeping the streets safe.I am a US Marine Veteran and am looking to take the MSP test when it is being given. I heard different things about veteran prefrence, i heard 2 points, 5 points, and someone even said that you go to the top of the list! Can anyone solidify any of this for me? Thanks again

Semper Fi

Posted by: evanbr33

Once the next exam is given (no one knows when that will be) you will get 2 points added to your exam score. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by wildbill0351

Hello to all and thanks for keeping the streets safe.I am a US Marine Veteran and am looking to take the MSP test when it is being given. I heard different things about veteran prefrence, i heard 2 points, 5 points, and someone even said that you go to the top of the list! Can anyone solidify any of this for me? Thanks again

Semper Fi

Posted by: lofu

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Originally Posted by wildbill0351

You will however move to the top of the civil circus list (provided you get at least a 70 which is pretty easy), if you take that exam.

Posted by: djgj200

My dad is very adamant about not going into the military because he wants me to get educated and be successful in life. He is almost nearly as adamant about going into police work let alone the Marlborough Police Dept. because of the issues they have there. He said if I ever want to go into Law Enforcement then go to the MSP because I could make something of myself there and that is most likely what I'll do.

I'll always have Marlborough in the back of my mind if things with the command staff and city government change but the one's in there now set the example for the future so the chances of it changing is slim to none. The only reason why I would ever consider going to Marlborough is because I would be in the city I lived my whole life in and its very familiar to me.

I don't think I will join the military just to get preference points. As much as my family and I are supporters of this country and the military, I would feel like I would be letting him down going into the military. He feels there are other people that are better suited to serve in the military because they owe it to this country. He used to be in the military but times have changed and his opinion on joining the military has changed.

Thanks for the info that you provided. I appreciate it. As for getting hand me down cruisers, I don't care as long as I wouldn't have to worry about someone on another shift turning the car into a disaster zone. When it comes to cars, I like them clean and neat. They don't have to be top of the line although it is something nice to have.

Posted by: tazoez

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Originally Posted by djgj200

My dad is very adamant about not going into the military because he wants me to get educated and be successful in life. He is almost nearly as adamant about going into police work let alone the Marlborough Police Dept. because of the issues they have there. He said if I ever want to go into Law Enforcement then go to the MSP because I could make something of myself there and that is most likely what I'll do.

I'll always have Marlborough in the back of my mind if things with the command staff and city government change but the one's in there now set the example for the future so the chances of it changing is slim to none. The only reason why I would ever consider going to Marlborough is because I would be in the city I lived my whole life in and its very familiar to me.

I don't think I will join the military just to get preference points. As much as my family and I are supporters of this country and the military, I would feel like I would be letting him down going into the military. He feels there are other people that are better suited to serve in the military because they owe it to this country. He used to be in the military but times have changed and his opinion on joining the military has changed.

Thanks for the info that you provided. I appreciate it. As for getting hand me down cruisers, I don't care as long as I wouldn't have to worry about someone on another shift turning the car into a disaster zone. When it comes to cars, I like them clean and neat. They don't have to be top of the line although it is something nice to have.

It's not the clean and neat part that you should worry about ( in my opinion ), a day off of work, vaccum cleaner and bottle of fantastic or 409 will do the job nicely. I feel that the thing to worry about is how bad the person before you beat the hell out of the car that you will be driving. I have said it before, my buddy had a cruiser that seemed like it was in the shop at least once a month for mechanical issues or lightbar issues. That particular cruiser is now in cruiser heaven due to a run in with an a$$hat that decided to drive 50mph during winter around a curve and whacked the rear of it ( while it was stationary and occupied ). The one he has now seems to be ok, the mileage is about the same as the old one but no major issues with it (except that damn idiot light saying check engine which likes to go on and off all the time -- gas cap on an 03, mechanics and Officer / Troopers that have an 03 or 04 will know what I am refering to).

Posted by: SinePari

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Originally Posted by djgj200

He feels there are other people that are better suited to serve in the military because they owe it to this country. He used to be in the military but times have changed and his opinion on joining the military has changed.

Thanks for the info that you provided. I appreciate it. As for getting hand me down cruisers, I don't care as long as I wouldn't have to worry about someone on another shift turning the car into a disaster zone. When it comes to cars, I like them clean and neat. They don't have to be top of the line although it is something nice to have.

Umm, I think pops needs to reevaluate our military service members. Yes, I think I owe something to this great nation, and gave it 20 years (and counting) of service. 3 tours to the sandbox and I'm still here...shaken, not stirred. You're a man, make your own decisions.

As far as cruisers go, I know you're just thinking ahead, but you need to focus on doing the best you can on the next written exam first. My 2001 is the shiniest 2001 on the road and it runs great, even after a significant crash. The Lt used to yell down to me when every day I was washing the thing and say, "you're gonna wash the paint off of that thing!" My arrestees would say, "man, it's clean back here."

Posted by: Killjoy

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Absolutely....no parent wants to see their child go off to do something the could be dangerous, but ultimately, its YOUR decision. My mother was sobbing the day my parents dropped me off at the recruiting station the day I left for boot camp, but later on, she knew it was the right and honorable decision. Also, you don't join the military to "get" veterans points, you join because you want to serve your country. The other benefits are great, but secondary to the mission of serving your nation.

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As far as cruisers go, I know you're just thinking ahead, but you need to focus on doing the best you can on the next written exam first. My 2001 is the shiniest 2001 on the road and it runs great, even after a significant crash. The Lt used to yell down to me when every day I was washing the thing and say, "you're gonna wash the paint off of that thing!" My arrestees would say, "man, it's clean back here."

Yeah, you're on step 1, don't worry about step 656!

Posted by: djgj200

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Originally Posted by Killjoy

Yeah, you're on step 1, don't worry about step 656!

Your right. I just like to get an idea of what lies ahead if I can. I won't be 21 as I already said so I won't be taking any exams any time soon but I am wondering if the State Police exam is similar to the Civil Service Exam and I am assuming they have books to prep you on that stuff.

Posted by: EOD1

Get as much education as u can, take every test u can and join the military if U want to. Don't worry about step 656 its probally 6+ years away! Worry about getting on in Ma.. anywhere in Ma.

Posted by: snapdog

You gotta be kidding me!!!!! You'd be crazy not to go for your most obvious IN at MPD....stop worrying about clean cruisers and start working the Father On the Job Factor.....the system is throwin you an underhand pitch...TAKE IT KID!

Posted by: djgj200

Its not just him. EVERY OFFICER in the department is shying me away from there. One of the Detectives there is pursuing a career change in becoming a lawyer and an Officer is highly considering resigning from the dept. I don't know if anyone heard but Marlborough over the winter hired 8 Officers. 1 was already an officer in Barre and another was an officer in Shrewsbury the other 6 are in the academy. My dad said he saw some of the guys that were sent to the academy at the station one day and said they looked like the whacker type or the type that will be causing a lot of problems in the dept.

I was fortunate enough to get a position there temporarily in February to get community service hours in entering citations and racial profiling/traffic stop data forms. That's when I interacted with most of the officers there and most of them shyed me away from there. The only ones that didn't were the dispatchers.

Unfortunately the dept has been getting "raped" by the Mayor and City Council trying to please the School Department's "demands" (I would call it that) and the Police Deparment gets a lot of blow back from that. My dad is thinking about running for Mayor, depending on the foundation this Mayor will give him. If he makes Mayor he would have to first clean up the mess the current Mayor started and then he would straighten things out in the City. He already said he's not going to devote the entire budget to the PD/give them everything they want but he is going to give them more (what they deserve) and recommend some restructuring of the command staff resulting in more efficiency. He made it clear that he would get a new Chief hired from the outside that isn't part of any clique in the dept. There is a lot of "ifs" and "woulds" in this paragraph so I am saying its a possibility that this will happen, not engraved in stone.

There are more factors which I would rather not discuss on the board. I feel that MSP would set me better off for the future. I won't be getting all the action Marlborough gets after the sun goes down on a daily basis but I would have an income that better suits the expensive MA lifestyle plus there are more advancement opportunities with the MSP.

Like someone said, to get on anywhere in MA. I would have to research it out and that may be the route I take. If I do decide to go to a local dept, I would try for something like Worcester or a dept closer to Boston or even Boston. Who knows. It's early and things will probably change and my views will probably change. I am starting college in the fall and in 5-6 years (depending on how long its takes to get a Master's) things could very well have changed.

Not to give you guys the impression that Marlborough has always been that bad, my dad said if this was 10 years ago he would be right behind me all the way to get on in Marlborough but it seemed like a Mayor we had 6+ years ago that didn't like Police starting screwing with the dept and has started a trend that has caused the dept to slowly go down hill and with what I hear of the rookies, its just going to get any better unless someone does something about it.

Posted by: Vader

There are, on an average, 16,000 - 22,000 people that take the MSP exam when it comes around. If you want to wait, hope and pray that you will be in that 1-2% that finally make it...I guess thats your choice. You've asked your question and I'm assuming you've read the advice people are giving you. Take it when it comes around, but don't put all your eggs there. Take anything you can get your hands on right now.

Good luck

Posted by: fscpd907

djgj200

Maybe it’s time for your dad to retire? Sounds to me like he HATES his job. I personally know and have worked with several current MPD guys and they paint a completely different picture of the department.

Remember my friend that you are posting on a public forum. Down the line you will need a good reference and I can guarantee the MSP will send a background investigator to your hometown PD. Don’t get all caught up in the politics just make a good impression and use your internship as a stepping stone.

Posted by: irish937

djgj, there is a time and place to air dirty laundry. This is not it. At 18 or 19, a potential candidate should just want the job PERIOD. That said, no department is a panacea. EVERY department has issues (yes, even the MSP). The larger you go, the more personalities that are involved. I too, grew up with a father for a cop. The best thing he did for me was not to discourage either way. When I talked about the military, he wanted to know my reasons for going. The only time he grumbled a little bit was when I first started as a police officer. That was only because he wanted me to stay away from the work (nights, weekends, holidays, etc.). I will tell you that changed the day he pinned my badge. It almost brought me to tears seeing the man so proud. It goes beyond what words could ever explain. You may want to try to work in Marlborough someday and the door will be closed because you have predisposed ideas (and voiced them in a public forum). No chief wants or needs that. I wise old cop told me that 98% policework is what you make of it, the rest gets stuffed down your throat. It can be the worst job or the best job depending on attitude. Nothing is more contagious than a negative attitude. Good luck and always remain humble.

Posted by: CHROMECOLT357

The easiest way to not get hired is to get the reputation of being a big mouth or a story teller. You are easily on your way to becoming both. If I was on the job in marlbough i would be pissed that someone's kid is slinging mud on this type of site. Im sure that the new guys in the academy will enjoy reading what your father has to say about them. Keep your mouth quiet and take every test you hear about.

Posted by: djgj200

Ok, but they are very open down there. Its nothing they don't know or wouldn't tell anyone else. About the guys in the academy, it was just an impression the guys got. They will have their chance to prove themselves.

Posted by: SouthSideCobras

Does your Dad know your are a whacker? (I saw your myspace) So far you have posted ridiculous questions about “Crashing the Amber” and “After you get on, what's the deal with getting your own cruiser?” If I were you I would take a long hard look in the mirror before I posted assumptions about others on a public forum.

Did you ever consider that your posting could get the Marlboro recruits in hot water with their Drill Instructors? I bet Chief Leonard would love to hear about his intern posting trash on masscops.

Posted by: SinePari

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Originally Posted by SouthSideCobras

I bet Chief Leonard would love to hear about his intern posting trash on masscops.

Yeah, and these message boards are cached, so if and when you go through backgrounds, maybe someone might pull this stuff up and see how you really felt about MPD. Ask the guys from the 78th RTT what happened to them when a few were running their mouths on this site.

Posted by: djgj200

I am just telling you my deciding factors. I would prefer this get back on topic as to getting on with the State Police or getting on in general than criticizing me because I am not using my connections with Marlborough.

Posted by: CHROMECOLT357

Just in case you weren't aware, I want to tell you what a good job your doing of burning every possible bridge that you could ever hope to cross in the future. Keep up the good work!

Posted by: djgj200

Ok if you say so. If I enter the field, I just want to make sure I won't be working for a dept that right now is being toyed with by the City government which has been having ripple effects on the dept.

Posted by: futureMSP

djgj200, try to remember, your not going to be in the process for a department for a few years. What do you think is going to happen if you keep bashing MPD? What happens if they become the highest paid, most desirable place to work in the state over the next few years. Now you'll have to try to apply to a place you have had no problem kicking in the nuts every chance you get. Maybe you should just go to college and try to listen. You seem to only want to hear replies that tell you what you want.

You want a clean cruiser so badly...maybe you should put the horse in front of the cart and concentrate on GETTING A JOB, not bitching about departments you don't work for and worrying about things that don't apply to you since your not on the job.

You shouldn't be talking about guys that are in the academy you don't know. All you do is bash that department and those who work there and will work there. If you think these things why don't you take a walk and tell it to their faces.

I don't care who your dad is or where you entered information on a computer; you need to get a grip on reality, stop whining until you really have something to whine about, and learn a little thing called respect. The last thing can't be taught in college so good luck with it.

Posted by: lofu

Come on guys, go easy on the kid. He'll go to college, study REALLY hard for his CJ degree. Avoid being one of the 75% of CJ majors that become total assholes because after all, they are almost cops so they can get away with anything. And then when he graduates he will JOIN the State Police (because its that easy).

Hopefully in the next four years, he will learn to keep his eyes and ears open and HIS MOUTH SHUT because as you all have been trying to tell him but he refuses to listen (despite coming here for advice) running your mouth will get you no where in this profession, especially for a young rookie.

Posted by: djgj200

I believe I already said that I would get over the cruisers and asked for infomation on State Police exams and all of a sudden I kept getting hit with why I wasn't taking advantage of a connection I had. I figured that if I gave you reasons why I really wasn't interested right now you would lay off that subject.

Like I said, it wasn't my opinion on the guys in the academy. It is what I heard, I never even met them. For all I know they will be great officers once they get on the job, I have not formed my own opinion of them as of yet. I hope they end up being good officers, but only time will tell.

I am not really worried about the guys on the dept that are on there now, they do a job with what they have to work with which isn't much. I am worried about the City screwing the dept over and over and over again. Year after year all I hear is about how all the money is given to the schools and the PD ends up taking a hit for it when they've been taking hits for years. For some strange reason the City is charging more for health insurance and the City won't explain why, I believe there is or was a lawsuit over it or something like that. As I said before, if Marlborough gets the right people running the city and won't screw the PD, I would have to really consider whether or not I want to go elsewhere. I am looking at the situation as if I was going to buy something from a guy online that has a reputation of ripping people off and buying from him anyway and end up getting ripped off.

My intentions were not to bash the PD although it sounded like I was, maybe it just didn't come out right. I was bashing the City for how they treat the PD and the effects it had on the PD. I am not trying to be a story teller like I was criticize for before, but you asked for a story.

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Originally Posted by lofu

Come on guys, go easy on the kid. He'll go to college, study REALLY hard for his CJ degree.

Actually I am going to college for business management. If 4-5 years down the road I still pursue this career and I get on the job, I am going to want to climb the ranks and a management degree will have taught be how to be a better supervisor and better manage what would be on my plate. I would work on getting a CJ degree after maybe a year on the job. If it doesn't work out, I have a good general degree to get a job elsewhere.

I agree that I do have a lot to learn, but when all the advice I get from talking with the officers at the dept tells me to go elsewhere I guess take it from those that work there. Like my dad said, ten years ago he would have encouraged me to go there but the residents voted in a Mayor that didn't like Police and he made sure people knew it and the trend hasn't really died off.

Posted by: GARDA

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Originally Posted by irish937

djgj, there is a time and place to air dirty laundry. This is not it. At 18 or 19, a potential candidate should just want the job PERIOD. That said, no department is a panacea. EVERY department has issues (yes, even the MSP). The larger you go, the more personalities that are involved. I too, grew up with a father for a cop. The best thing he did for me was not to discourage either way. When I talked about the military, he wanted to know my reasons for going. The only time he grumbled a little bit was when I first started as a police officer. That was only because he wanted me to stay away from the work (nights, weekends, holidays, etc.). I will tell you that changed the day he pinned my badge. It almost brought me to tears seeing the man so proud. It goes beyond what words could ever explain. You may want to try to work in Marlborough someday and the door will be closed because you have predisposed ideas (and voiced them in a public forum). No chief wants or needs that. I wise old cop told me that 98% policework is what you make of it, the rest gets stuffed down your throat. It can be the worst job or the best job depending on attitude. Nothing is more contagious than a negative attitude. Good luck and always remain humble.

djgj200, read above again. Nicely said irish937.

Also, try to remember that many of the people who may discourage or dissuade you from your goals and dreams are usually the same people who have given up on their own unattained ones a long time ago.

Posted by: fscpd907

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Originally Posted by djgj200

Like I said, it wasn't my opinion on the guys in the academy. It is what I heard, I never even met them.

So you thought bad mouthing current MPD recruits without personal knowledge of their situation was a good idea? Your badmouth trash talk WILL get back to those individuals so don’t be surprised when they cite you for “Crashing the Amber.”

Posted by: djgj200

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Originally Posted by fscpd907

People go around talking about what they hear about all the time. Most of the people that talk about something don't have personal knowledge of what they are talking about. Some of them are rumors that get spread around, some have truth. It takes time to tell if there is any truth to it.

I say we get back on topic. Can anyone give me a heads up on the MSP Exam, how often they are given, etc?

Posted by: Rock

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Originally Posted by djgj200

I say we get back on topic. Can anyone give me a heads up on the MSP Exam, how often they are given, etc?

I think you should focus on your business management degree.

Posted by: tikrit22

djgj200- I have heard rumors that the next test will be in 07. You may want to reconsider your father's advice. Do not feel that you need to please him. You must make your own choices. As far as joining the military to get the preference points- do what you have to do. However, do not feel that the military will hold you back from being succesful. You will learn many life lessons in the military that you will not learn in college.
Your story reminds me of when I was a junior in high school, at a private school in MA. My teachers told me that there were others better suited to serve in the military because they owed it to this country. It would be a step down for me. Needless to say I joined the reserves, my junior year, and was sent to Iraq my first semester of college. Granted I missed almost two years of school and spent time in the hospital. However, I learned many lessons that could never be taught in school.
College will not teach you how to make split second life or death decisions. Neither will college teach you the importance of being loyal and respectful. You must learn to make decisions on your own- free from worrying about what family and friends will think about you.
Wish you luck on getting onto the MSP. I was thinking about the MSP but instead will be trying for the NHSP this month. I remember how I thought and how easily I was influenced when I was 18. Take what the other people have said to heart and learn from your mistakes. Lastly, getting on the MSP or any PD should be about service. There will always be problems with City Hall and equipment. Get over it.

Posted by: djgj200

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Originally Posted by tikrit22

djgj200- I have heard rumors that the next test will be in 07.

Unfortunately I won't be 21 next year so I guess I will have to wait it out.

Posted by: SinePari

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Originally Posted by djgj200

Unfortunately I won't be 21 next year so I guess I will have to wait it out.

48 posts later, you finally get it.

Posted by: tazoez

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Originally Posted by SinePari

48 posts later, you finally get it.

Didn't want to say anything, but took long enough.

Posted by: Tackleberry22

I've been watching this thread for a while and have decided to throw my two cents into the fray. I have lost count of the countless times members of this board have told newbies to NOT BURN THEIR BRIDGES AT BOTH ENDS. So dont go and shoot yourself in your other foot. Take everything that has been said as constructive critisim. Irish937 and GARDA said it nicely.
Realistically, you have a long time before you'll get a chance at the MSP if you miss the next test. You have a given opportunity at the MPD so do what you can despite what your daddy wants. Getting on a department in this state is extremely hard, but once your in your in. You have a better shot with them than waiting years for the MSP. Just because the MSP holds an examination does not necessarily mean that they will hold a class right afterwards. The last MSP test that was held did not put on a class for 4 yrs. This mess with the Big Waste is gonna whack us in the wallet, which may mean less money for the MSP and other departments.
If i were you, finish college or join the military. Get involved with the explorers and see if you can get on PT in a town. Keep your focus on the present and not down the road. IF the MPD calls you, take it. However, your blackballing them can destroy your chances and remember that your dad can get flak for what you say as well. So watch what you say. ...........I think I'm done.

Posted by: djgj200

Tackleberry,

Considering your advice and seeing what the future may hold, I will probably do what you suggest. We will see, I will have to get my priorities straight after college and take it from there.

Posted by: Tackleberry22

My advice was in concurrence with what others had posted on this thread. A lot of guys gave you some great insight.

Posted by: djgj200

Yeah i know, i just figured things could change. You basically summed up everything posted in this thread. Like I said, I would have to get my priorities straight after I get out of college and evaluate the situation.

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