| Originally Posted by luap112 shawnr76, Don't judge someone so quickly!!!! That could be you someday. I happen to now Ryan. He is a good kid and it is totally out of his character. He made a mistake. Maybe he might loose his job over it and if he does well thats something he will have to live with I hope he dosen't though. Lets not judge him before ALL the facts come out. |
| Originally Posted by Guinness2429 Oops, gotta go, the Prezie Pub is opening in a few minutes. I wouldn't want to miss my breakfast Bud. Guinness2429 |
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, broads and testosterone don't mix especially if others know you are a cop. Don't get me wrong, I use to love a good bar fight after a few beers; however, I was young then and the USMC MP's would just beat the crap out of you and send you on your way 
(no criminal charges). Food for thought; in order to enforce the law we must obey the law. | Originally Posted by MARINECOP I feel we as police officers need to realize that those good ole days of bar fighting in the past are over the day we put on that badge (what great training it was though). Don't put yourself in the enviorment if you arent willing to accept the consequences and remember booze , broads and testosterone don't mix especially if others know you are a cop. Don't get me wrong, I use to love a good bar fight after a few beers; however, I was young then and the USMC MP's would just beat the crap out of you and send you on your way (no criminal charges). Food for thought; in order to enforce the law we must obey the law. |
| Originally Posted by Macop Oh sheesh, a cop gets into a fist fight at a bar and it makes the paper. It's actually pretty common. I can think of numerous occasions where cops where either fighting with others or each other after closing time. Ya, maybe back in the 70s!! |
Back in the 70's???
| Originally Posted by DPD77 Oh let us not forget Foley's on a Friday night. I've seen a few scrums there and the Herald rag is around the corner and half the pressmen are there also. Never seen them make the rags,, thank God or there might be a few more without jobs. |
| Fate, different standards ruin a cop's career before it starts By Peter Gelzinis Recent Columns by Peter Gelzinis Wednesday, April 28, 2004 Nothing good happens at two o'clock in the morning. It is one of the harder truths of this life. And certainly one that Ryan McCarthy is not likely to forget for the rest of his. What started out as a Valentine's Day birthday party at the American Athletic Club in Milford, ended as a witching hour free-for-all. For all the small town police who showed up to quell an estimated 25 to 30 separate slugfests that erupted around closing time, four guys and one woman left the scene in handcuffs. Just about all of the superficial bruising was confined to the ego. Fortunately, no one came close to losing a life. Yet, the brawl did claim at least one casualty. After all the shouting, after the punches that landed and the many more that missed, Ryan McCarthy, a promising 25-year-old rookie cop in his hometown of Westwood, had lost the only career he had ever wanted. He was just 28 days shy of completing his probationary year. ``It's troubling on a number of different levels,'' fellow Westwood officer and mentor Paul Toland said yesterday. ``I don't believe there's anyone on this force who would say that Ryan's performance as an officer was anything less than admirable. He had always conducted himself in a highly professional manner and displayed that same commitment to the public. It's frustrating that we had to lose a good man in this way.'' What pushes this frustration into the realm of a senseless loss is knowing there will never be any legal record of the foolishness that occurred inside the American Athletic Club and spilled out into the parking lot on that crazy Valentine's Day. Last week, all charges related to this fiasco were thrown out of court. But the dismissal came too late for Ryan McCarthy. Two weeks earlier the Westwood Board of Selectman, in a closed session, voted to fire McCarthy for ``conduct unbecoming an officer.'' To be more precise, Ryan McCarthy was fired for conduct unbecoming a probationary officer. For in truth, had he cleared his probation and enjoyed full Civil Service protection, he could not have been fired before having his day in court. Yes, there are two conflicting stories at the heart of this situation. McCarthy insists he went to the aid of man being pummeled by pulling off the aggressor and holding him in a headlock. ``I never threw a punch at anyone,'' he said. An investigation spearheaded by Westwood Police Chief William Chase arrived at exactly the opposite conclusion. In the department's version of events, Ryan McCarthy was a willing participant in the fray. For awhile Ryan McCarthy's lawyer, Robert George, hoped that ironing all this out in court might help to keep his young client in uniform and following in the steps of his father, a veteran of the Dedham police force. ``The real shame here,'' George said, ``is that a kid who devoted himself to having a career in law enforcement, sees his future destroyed even when a court clears him of the two charges he was facing. Because of the (probationary) situation he found himself in, he's not afforded the same rights anybody else would receive.'' But then prospective cops are held to a standard - different and, yes, higher than their veteran colleagues. There hasn't been a day in the last two months when Ryan McCarthy doesn't play the scene differently in his mind, or see himself staying home. Now, the hope of reclaiming a lost future has come down to a miserable choice: He can either allow his termination to stand, or move to accept the option of resignation. ``At least then,'' said a source, ``the kid can begin to start again, maybe find a spot on a college (police) force and, in a few years, maybe work his way back to a city . . . somewhere.'' |
College Police have a lower standard for their Officers :no: 
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