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Posted by: sspo05

I worked part time for department then resigned. I also work full time for a college police department. I was stoped recently and gave information that I work full time at a college department and had worked part time at another department. The cheif at the old department sent me a letter and also put it my Personnel file. Like I said i do not work at that department so is it legal that he put that in my file?

Posted by: capepd

huh?

The post dosen't make any sense...but I'll take a shot.

He (your old Chief) can put anything in your file he wants. I would imagine you could have it removed if, as an active employee, you had a contract which spells out the how/whys of the procedure. However, seeing as you no longer work there, it really dosn't matter.

(I have a feeling my reply makes less sense than your question)

Posted by: RustyShackleford

Quote:

Originally Posted by sspo05

I worked part time for department then resigned. I also work full time for a college police department. I was stoped recently and gave information that I work full time at a college department and had worked part time at another department. The cheif at the old department sent me a letter and also put it my Personnel file. Like I said i do not work at that department so is it legal that he put that in my file?

I don't get it.

Posted by: futureMSP

I am having trouble understanding your post.

Here is it as I understand:

You worked part time at XYZ police department. You now work full time at a Campus pd. You don't work at XYZ PD part time anymore. You were driving and were stopped for some reason. You told the PO that you work full time at the Campus PD and had previously worked at XYZ PD part time.

Then the Chief of XYZ PD sent you a letter and put it into your personnel file also. Why do you care if he put a letter in it, you don't work there anymore.

Am I following all this somewhat correctly??

Posted by: Duff112

I'm going to try to take a stab at this somewhat confusing post as well, without going over what Capepd, Rusty Shackleford and FutureMSP said:

Your concern is that your previous Chief for your PT job placed what I presume to be a "Non-Flattering" letter in your personnel jacket even though you are no longer an employee of that department. Is that correct?

If it is, then I believe your concern is that if you were to try to get another job with another agency, this letter might be fair game for a background check by this agency, before you get the job.

I guess the next question would be - What was in the letter?

Posted by: sspo05

duff112
is on track sorry about the confusion trying to be some what vague for obvious reasons. But i am applying to other departments were this is a issue.
The letter basically states that i violated the conflict of interest code. My real question is how can i have this in my personnel file when i was not a personnel.

Posted by: sdb29

Quote:

Originally Posted by sspo05

duff112
is on track sorry about the confusion trying to be some what vague for obvious reasons. But i am applying to other departments were this is a issue.
The letter basically states that i violated the conflict of interest code. My real question is how can i have this in my personnel file when i was not a personnel.

Well-umm Thanks for the clarification, but I still don't get it. Maybe I've had a stroke or something.

Posted by: topcop14

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Originally Posted by sspo05

While I don't know the law chapter and section, I am fairly certain that they can not put things like that in your file after you have left. Let me guess what department this in volved, MILLVILLE?

Posted by: no$.10

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Originally Posted by sspo05

Honestly, I am sure you will be offended by this, but what the heck... I'll state it anyway; if you really want a career in Law Enforcement, sign up for some English classes. If you are working for a Campus PD now, you must be eligible for discounted tuition. If you cannot write legibly, what good are your police reports?

You were rushing through, and you wanted to remain vague, and blahblahblah. Take a class.

Posted by: K9Vinny

My first thought: Any good background investigator is going to give more merit to what your former Chief and coworkers have to say about you. I guess the former chief just wants to document the incident to put the screws to you for former background checks. Either way, it sounds like neither avenue has much good to say about you, for whatever reason. It doesn't sound like there is much you can do about it, except to wait until the old chief retires or leaves, and send the new chief a case of booze, and ask him to clean up your file.

My second thought: Because we don't know what the letter says, I think I have a hunch. My hunch says the the former chief is pretty sharp. What he is doing is officially documenting a "lie" that you told. Did you tell the officer who stopped you that you were still an officer with XYZ PD, and later found out that you were fired or quit? If so, a documented "lie" in a police file would be a Giglio issue, meaning that because it has been documented that you have lied (for whatever reason), or were untruthful, you would not make a credible witness in court, or would be ineligible to testify for the government in court because of a "documented" episode of being untruthful. This translates to you not being able to fulfill a vital requirement of your job, and would keep you off the department.

More specifics are needed though..

Posted by: capepd

geeeeze....just tell us what the #@%$! happened so we can help and stop being so vague. Leave out the Dept. name and get to it.

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