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What does the Boston Herald have against the MSP?

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Posted by: Killjoy

Maybe someone with more connections than me can answer this; what exactly does the Herald have against the MSP? It seems like they take every opportunity (including inventing such non-news like the recent ticket thing) to crap on us. Did we give their senior editor a ticket? Did one of their staffers drop out of some academy in the long past? What is it with this vendetta?



Posted by: BufordTJustice

Same thing they have against every other police department in the U.S. Do something good, dont hear a thing about it. But screw up and its all over the news.



Posted by: LA Copper

If it's any consolation to you, it's not just you guys. The L.A. Times is just as much against the LAPD as The Herald seems to be against the Mass State Police. I call them "The Communist Times." Bad stories against the police in any city seems to sell papers I guess.



Posted by: nevrehc

No more breaks for the Herald as the drive 80+ in their trucks delivering their rag of a paper.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by nevrehc
No more breaks for the Herald as the drive 80+ in their trucks delivering their rag of a paper.
Why are you going to stick it to the working stiffs who have nothing to do with the content of the paper they deliver?

Any negative stories about any police agency gets attention, and therefore sells newspapers. As bad as the Herald is, I'll take it any day over the Globe.



Posted by: Dane

One of my FTOs in the Worcester area used to stop T&G trucks for equipment violations and cite the owner.



Posted by: RPD931

I stopped a guy once and he said "please don't give me a ticket, I had a long day I'm sorry. I work to the Telegram & Gazette". Well the fact he drove like and ass-clown combined with the final line about working for the T&G - he got a nice gig.

A word to our newsies, don't shit where you sleep. You my be all cozy in those newspaper offices, but you have to commute home at some point.



Posted by: dcs2244

Too right, RPD.

When the Springfield paper was called "The Union News", we used to call it the "Soviet Union News"...it really is a menshevik rag...I wouldn't subscribe if it were the last paper on earth. I only read it at the diner while waiting for my breakfast or lunch.



Posted by: mtc

Quote:
Originally Posted by Killjoy
Maybe someone with more connections than me can answer this; what exactly does the Herald have against the MSP? It seems like they take every opportunity (including inventing such non-news like the recent ticket thing) to crap on us. Did we give their senior editor a ticket? Did one of their staffers drop out of some academy in the long past? What is it with this vendetta?
It is an easy, broadsided target. They are not reporting news, they are printing conjecture that doesn't reflect reality.

No one can police them in print, so they print whatever they wish, no accountability. Unless someone takes them to task, which is well below MSP's standards.

Defending their actions gives merit to the public whaaaa they print.



Posted by: GARDA

[quote=Delta784]Why are you going to stick it to the working stiffs who have nothing to do with the content of the paper they deliver?

Did the Rebel Alliance in Star Wars hesitate to blow up the Death Star while it was being rebuilt by all those many, "innocent" working-stiff sub-contractors that were hired by the Empire to do the job? ...They had to know what they were getting themselves into, right?" -Anybody remember this conversation line from the movie "Clerks"?
Instant classic!

However, I agree Delta784. You can't go sticking it to the drivers for something that the editorial staff (intellectual idiots) choose to print. That would be like writing every fuel tanker operator whenever OPEC decides to raise gas prices. As Dane said, write the owner.



Posted by: nevrehc

I choose to not give breaks anymore, everybody gets a gig. Need to make my numbers catch up to the pike.



Posted by: THE RP

Quote:
Originally Posted by nevrehc
I choose to not give breaks anymore, everybody gets a gig. Need to make my numbers catch up to the pike.


Very stand up of you...Equate it all to some numbers, some stats...This is why troopers and all other cops get a shit name. Like it's some friggin competition to see who can write the most tickets. Grow up and make some interdiction stops for christ sake..Think about the big picture.

The article was a slap for obvious reasons. By writing more people for numbers, it will just make it worse and then your big raises will start to disappear because the pols will be taking too much heat...Stop being so arrogant. The only people you do a favor for when you write someone for 3 over are the executives at the insurance companies...

Yeah...No more breaks.. Marvelous!



Posted by: SinePari

Quote:
Originally Posted by THE RP

Very stand up of you...Equate it all to some numbers, some stats...This is why troopers and all other cops get a shit name. Like it's some friggin competition to see who can write the most tickets. Grow up and make some interdiction stops for christ sake..Think about the big picture.

The article was a slap for obvious reasons. By writing more people for numbers, it will just make it worse and then your big raises will start to disappear because the pols will be taking too much heat...Stop being so arrogant. The only people you do a favor for when you write someone for 3 over are the executives at the insurance companies...

Yeah...No more breaks.. Marvelous!
I think he was being sarcastic



Posted by: nevrehc

At least sombody gets my humor, relax francis.



Posted by: THE RP

OK..My bad



Posted by: Dr.Magoo

I've said this before and I'll say it again. The press is not our (Any police dept. , not just MSP) friend, period!!! When they call looking for information or talk to you on scene, advise them the matter is under investigation and information will only be released by the PIO. In other words, NO COMMENT.



Posted by: Killjoy

Quote:
The press is not our (Any police dept. , not just MSP) friend, period!!! When they call looking for information or talk to you on scene, advise them the matter is under investigation and information will only be released by the PIO. In other words, NO COMMENT.
Sometimes I think this can be bad thing; we stand around mute while the press lobs bombs at us, and infer that our silence means guilt or incompetence. Remember, if the media doesn't get news, they will often invent it. I've often wondered if we would do better to hire an outside PR agency to handle the press. A friend of mine's wife is in PR and thinks the police's handling of the press is abominable.



Posted by: Tackleberry22

The T&G and Boston Globe are Communist rags printed with red ink. I'll read the Herald over the Globe or T&G any day of the week. The Herald overall is not as bad as the T&G or Globe when it comes to bashing the police. The ticket on the pike article wasn't as bad when compared to the cartoon in the Editorial section. If you can pull that up, that should ruffle some feathers.



Posted by: stubrie

Someone has to say it....

Waaaaaaaaaaahhhaaaaaa.
The herald doesen't like me and puts me on the front page when I screw up...
I did not tell that trooper to put a boot on the kids head and put his head in the can.
Funny how the herald has nothing to say about other LE state agencies.
You brought it on yourself cry baby.....

Meet me on the 9th green at 9pm-
Shooter.



Posted by: bbelichick

Quote:
Originally Posted by stubrie
Funny how the herald has nothing to say about other LE state agencies.
Ummm...What other State LE Agencies are you talking about? The EPO's? All 150 of them?

As far as the boot to the head, that was warranted. The other 50 articles about BS? The inclusion of "facts" that are completely unverified and utterly untrue? The garbage conclusions? All ture journalism, I guess.



Posted by: stubrie

Your boy has no voice, now your his mouth piece?
Maybe they should call you don king,
He's a much better screenname....
Why is a boot on the back of anyone's neck warranted, in a trainning session?
Can you say, Shod foot....
The other 50 articles, I won't talk poop, but YIKES.......
Maybe Mulvilhill thinks there is even more to the toilet story, "GASP"
like the toilet games that have happened before.........
I'ts like, follow the "i'm a leader".
Go ahead DCS take your shot next.
Sooooo, predictable, robot.



Posted by: SOT

Here's how it works...and you are missing the larger part of the picture.

Newspapers need to sell advert space....to do that they must sell papers....to do that they must pander to their market. In MA every poor crack head bastard should get a free ride and every law abiding citizen should get his ass reamed for wanting to own a gun...to that end all the poor fellows "turning their life around" will pay money to hear how bad the cops are....so these rags print the crap their dumb ass readers want to read...and frame it as "exposing corruption".
To that end ....once a paper has won the trust of the scumbags, it makes it easier for them to influence their voting habits. Newspapers are the opiate of society...and are no longer the bastions of truth and fair reporting that they may have been in the past...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Killjoy
Maybe someone with more connections than me can answer this; what exactly does the Herald have against the MSP? It seems like they take every opportunity (including inventing such non-news like the recent ticket thing) to crap on us. Did we give their senior editor a ticket? Did one of their staffers drop out of some academy in the long past? What is it with this vendetta?




Posted by: bbelichick

Quote:
Originally Posted by stubrie
Your boy has no voice, now your his mouth piece?
Maybe they should call you don king,
He's a much better screenname....
Why is a boot on the back of anyone's neck warranted, in a trainning session?
Can you say, Shod foot....
The other 50 articles, I won't talk poop, but YIKES.......
Maybe Mulvilhill thinks there is even more to the toilet story, "GASP"
like the toilet games that have happened before.........
I'ts like, follow the "i'm a leader".
Go ahead DCS take your shot next.
Sooooo, predictable, robot.
Hey Nitwit, I was saying that the SHOT about the boot was warranted...not the act itself.



Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

Quote:
Originally Posted by Killjoy
Sometimes I think this can be bad thing; we stand around mute while the press lobs bombs at us, and infer that our silence means guilt or incompetence. Remember, if the media doesn't get news, they will often invent it. I've often wondered if we would do better to hire an outside PR agency to handle the press. A friend of mine's wife is in PR and thinks the police's handling of the press is abominable.

Oh god you must have heard me say this since I got into this profession bravo I could not have said it better myself. Cops cant even communicate to themselves agency to agency its like a secret squirrel society never mind the media. Cops are able to speak up when it comes to money though no secret squirrel society there.



Posted by: Killjoy

Quote:

Your boy has no voice, now your his mouth piece?
Maybe they should call you don king,
He's a much better screenname....
Why is a boot on the back of anyone's neck warranted, in a trainning session?
Can you say, Shod foot....
The other 50 articles, I won't talk poop, but YIKES.......
Maybe Mulvilhill thinks there is even more to the toilet story, "GASP"
like the toilet games that have happened before.........
I'ts like, follow the "i'm a leader".
Go ahead DCS take your shot next.
Sooooo, predictable, robot.
What a boob, at least I can write in complete sentences; this is like dialogue coming from William Shatner.



Posted by: Wolfman

Quote:
Originally Posted by Killjoy
...this is like dialogue coming from William Shatner.




Posted by: stubrie

I knew you had an original thought/comment, somewhere up there.



Posted by: dcs2244

Stubrie, grab your Detex, it's time for another round...



Posted by: nirtallica

Quote:
Originally Posted by dcs2244
Stubrie, grab your Detex, it's time for another round...




Posted by: stubrie

What the heck is detex?
I assume a detox drug.
Once again, kudos for being original, learned a new term
5 of you guys responed to my comments, hilarious.
You can't even fight one on one on a message board.
5 on 1 on an armed criminal= yes
5 on 1 on some message board clown =no
Don't make crack into a limerick..

Detox=no
Frontal lobotamy=yes




Posted by: Killjoy

Quote:
5 on 1 on some message board clown =no
I guess you're the "message board clown", no? Couldn't have put it better myself, thanks.





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