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Posted by: j809

Just curious how a 2006 brand new MSP cruiser made it on EBAY for sale with its two tone french blue colors?
EBAY AUCTION 2006 FORD CROWN VICTORIA

Posted by: Andy0921

Yeah I saw that, the dealer is out of New Hampshire.

Posted by: dh18

esp since it has an actv reg, check the VIN.

Posted by: tazoez

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...spagenameZWDVW

For those who want to see it -- and I still dont believe it.
How could they get an 06 CVPI French and Electric Blue??? I know a few troopers who's 1998s seem like they are always in the shop.

Posted by: BPD110

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Originally Posted by j809

Just curious how a 2006 brand new MSP cruiser made it on EBAY for sale with its two tone french blue colors?
EBAY AUCTION 2006 FORD CROWN VICTORIA

I'm surprised you havent bought it yet for your new detail car

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by tazoez

How could they get an 06 CVPI French and Electric Blue???

Uhhhh....maybe they had it painted?

The dealership is in New Hampshire, so they can do whatever they please. Perhaps it was ordered by CMPSA, then cancelled.

Posted by: j809

Sometimes they sell them if they were damaged during delivery. They fix it up and re-sell it. I think it's kind of funny and as Delta said, CMPSA is probably the high bidder.
Hey BPD Nate, I didn't want to overbid you so I let you buy it!!

Posted by: Pvt. Cowboy

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Originally Posted by Delta784

Perhaps it was ordered by CMPSA, then cancelled.

You beat me to it!! Bastard!!

Posted by: mtc

Who ** ARE** these people ???

Posted by: Heather86

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Originally Posted by tazoez

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...spagenameZWDVW

For those who want to see it -- and I still dont believe it.
How could they get an 06 CVPI French and Electric Blue??? I know a few troopers who's 1998s seem like they are always in the shop.

It was damaged upon arrival to MSP and was rejected so it was fixed then put up for auction and was purchased, please dont worry as we will not be selling it to a Mass customer. Dont want any crazies out there playing cop and pulling people over...all of you be safe out there....=D>

Posted by: Heather86

Please Ignore The Thumbs Down On Top Of My Quote That Was Supposed To Be In My Statement About Any Crazies Wanting To Purchase The Vehicle To Play Cop...
I Think You Real Police Officers Out There Are The Best
Be Careful And Be Safe

Posted by: Wolfman

Just wondering of your fingers get sore from pressing the "Shift" key at the beginning of every word...

Posted by: Heather86

NO! IS THIS BETTER? or this....

Just trying to change it up a bit....

Posted by: Wolfman

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Originally Posted by Heather86

So if I was from Massachusetts you would refuse to sell me the car? And are we to understand from this post that you are conducting "crazy screening" for potential buyers?

Honestly, who else would want to buy a French & Electric blue P71? Throw in a dash-mounted Kleenex dispenser and a shovel mount in the trunk, you'll get a few extra grand for the car.

Posted by: Heather86

Yes at least selling it with that color scheme. We would need to come to an agreement with any buyer from Mass on price to paint it one color. But any other state it would be legal for them to buy it and yes I guess people might be a little crazy to want it with that color scheme, but yes we would not sell it knowingly to any mass resident because who knows...cant leave it up to chance that they might want to pull over people ya know?

Posted by: Wolfman

Can of worms, no matter how you look at it.

Posted by: Heather86

Hey I am just the middle man. Just trying to clear the air about it. We are a dealership selling cars

Have a great evening...

Posted by: GMACK24

yeah they should have at least painted it first before selling it to the general public.
there was some yahoo on Ebay who just sold his 96 Chevorlet Caprice with the French and Electric blue in tact.........

Damnit I wish I still had the link......

Posted by: Heather86

I guess after it was fixed for some reason it was repainted with the same scheme. Again since we are a NH dealer I guess it didnt seem like much of an issue, we certainly didnt or dont mean any harm, just a vehicle that was purchased at the auction by our buyer. I agree with you though...

Posted by: Heather86

be safe out there and have a great evening.

Posted by: 40th MPOC#309

Hey G-man,nice site. Very good pics and historical stuff to boot. Good Job. 40. (ps-Heather, I guarantee you, some day that Bluebird will wind up in Mass.) Good luck selling it. It should go quick....

Posted by: Heather86

Thanks, I do hope it dosent... so far my bidders are from half way across the US...thanks for your thoughts....have a great night

Posted by: BLUE LINE

I remember a few years ago reading a law somewhere that stated a buyer of a former police vehicle was responsible for removing all decals and painting any m/v that had a known 2 tone police scheme like any black & white or State Police colors. I'm not sure what chapter and section it was but I'll do some research on it.

Posted by: DaViper

Are you sure it needs to be repainted? My friend is about to buy a 2000 p71 Crown Vic with the two tone blue paint (all state police decals were removed), and we were told it's legal to drive as long as there are no decals. The paint job is the best part about the car.

Thanks,
-DaViper

Posted by: tazoez

Even if it doesn't by law need to be repainted (not sure either way), why would you keep it two-tone?
It would stick out somethin fierce to the police's attention.

Posted by: kwflatbed

I belive that if you buy one from the state police auctions it is required in the contract that you need to repaint it one solid color befor you can register it.
As far as buying it from a dealer it would be your choice,but as stated who would want to
stand out in the crowd and look to be stopped.

Posted by: Wolfman

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Originally Posted by DaViper

Are you sure it needs to be repainted? My friend is about to buy a 2000 p71 Crown Vic with the two tone blue paint (all state police decals were removed), and we were told it's legal to drive as long as there are no decals. The paint job is the best part about the car.

Are you sure it's not the puke encrusted floormats?

Whack whack whack

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by Wolfman

Are you sure it's not the puke encrusted floormats?

Police cars have rubber floors, not floormats.

About 10 years ago, some young cranker bought one of our old cruisers (for which he should have had his head examined), and didn't paint over the two-tone paint scheme. In addition, he drove like a complete moron. When he racked-up a few hundred dollars in CMVI fines, he finally got the hint, and painted the car.

Posted by: Killjoy

Unless you spend some of your own dough to buy floormats...

Posted by: Wolfman

Mea culpa. "Puke encrusted rubber floor assemblies which are mounted over the metallic floor substrate".

Posted by: dcs2244

"rubber"

Which is porous and therefore collects "odors"...except in Quincy, which does not even have a Walgreen's, because they are "PERFECT", even though they apparently needed the MDC to help them adequately cover their "sh*tty" (as Sean Connery would say...)!

That's "porous": (adj) permeable to liquids.

That's "porous", as in QPD's ability to police their territory...

Posted by: 40th MPOC#309

Holy cow Dave-tell us whats really on your mind? Dont pull any punches Bro....Whassup w/QPD?

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by dcs2244

Which is porous and therefore collects "odors"...except in Quincy, which does not even have a Walgreen's,

Think again. There are two of them, one at 418 Quincy Avenue (I was just there tonight for someone passing a fake script), and the other at 550 Adams Street. If you're going to pop-off, at least know what you're talking about, so you don't come across as a complete jackass when you get it thrown back in your face.

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Originally Posted by dcs2244

because they are "PERFECT",

Perfect?? Hardly. There is only one person I know of who was perfect, and he was born about 2006 years ago.

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Originally Posted by dcs2244

even though they apparently needed the MDC to help them adequately cover their "sh*tty" (as Sean Connery would say...)!

Uhhh....no, once again. You see, when the MDC Police were around, they actually took ALL the calls on MDC roads & property. I realize that this is a foreign concept to the state police. Expecting a police agency to fufill their responsibilties does not mean they are "needed" to help in other areas.

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Originally Posted by dcs2244

That's "porous", as in QPD's ability to police their territory...

Not only do we police our own territory just fine (anytime you want to compare felony arrest numbers with me, please let me know), we also frequently have to police the state police's area of responsibility. An accident on Quincy Shore Drive on a hot summer's night on a weekend? There are two chances of the state police responding to that.....slim and none. So....guess who gets stuck with the call? The "porous" QPD.

BTW....it must be nice, as a police officer, to just say "Sorry, we have no one to send". Very convenient.

What is the reason for this little outburst? Drunk? Bad night at work?

Posted by: 94c

What is the reason for this little outburst? Drunk? Bad night at work?[/quote]

not much happening in western Mass.

Posted by: dcs2244

Nah, just "winding-up" Delta!

The Walgreens remark was based on their commercials...don't take everything so literally. The "ability to police" remark was just a tweak...knew you'd pounce!

BTW, I was talking to a Met about you yesterday (not that either of us know you, we were discussing your posts inre: the MDC)at lunch. Suffice it to say we agreed that if the situation you posit obtains, their may be several reasons for it (and the SP is not the sole cause for those reasons...). Has your chief brought the situation to the attention of the barracks commander?

We're really all on the same team!

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcs2244

Nah, just "winding-up" Delta!

The Walgreens remark was based on their commercials...don't take everything so literally. The "ability to police" remark was just a tweak...knew you'd pounce!

Uhhhh....okay.....

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Originally Posted by dcs2244

BTW, I was talking to a Met about you yesterday (not that either of us know you, we were discussing your posts inre: the MDC)at lunch. Suffice it to say we agreed that if the situation you posit obtains, their may be several reasons for it (and the SP is not the sole cause for those reasons...). Has your chief brought the situation to the attention of the barracks commander?

I should mention here that I blame the state police as an organization, not the two troopers per shift that are covering the same area formally patrolled by 10-15 Mets. They're just playing the cards they're dealt. The state police simply hasn't made coverage of former MDC areas any sort of priority. They closed the Hull MDC station, and if you visit Nantasket Beach in the summer, it will become quickly obvious that was a bad decision. I thought back in 1992 that the merge was a big mistake, and I still believe it was.

As for the chief contacting the barracks commander, that's not going to happen. If something doesn't affect him personally, it might as well not exist, and he's certainly not out there eating the accidents.

BTW....has anyone else noticed that the DCR rangers are looking more & more like cops? They started out with all-amber light bars, then amber & red in the rear, now amber & red on both sides. A friend of mine's wife works at the DCR HQ, and swears she saw paperwork concerning the purchase of handguns. I don't know if I believe that, or not.

Posted by: dcs2244

Delta, I'll ask around about the 'rangers'...we have a DCR outpost nearby. The gradual evolution of the rangers into a police department is not unexpected...

Posted by: j809

Yes, I spoke to a trooper out of Boston recently and I heard these MDC rangers are doing details with no guns also. Question I have, is why did the MSP give them the details?

Posted by: MSP75

It would make sense in this Commonwealth to recreate the MDC police through the rangers instead of giving each barracks the capability to cover the DCR roads/property.

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by j809

Yes, I spoke to a trooper out of Boston recently and I heard these MDC rangers are doing details with no guns also. Question I have, is why did the MSP give them the details?

Perhaps they can work them after all the troopers on the list have refused?

Posted by: dcs2244

There has been a lot of work back east...one can only work a limited amount of hours (thanks Jajuga)...so the empty slots are filled by other departments...I guess if it's a DCR gig then the rangers are allowed to work them...just a guess. In their '06 CV's (just trying to stay on topic

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSP75

It would make sense in this Commonwealth to recreate the MDC police through the rangers instead of giving each barracks the capability to cover the DCR roads/property.

I think that if there are any changes in that regard, you might see an arrangement like the US Park Police and the NPS "protection rangers". I don't think your guys would be too eager to spend their shifts baby-sitting a water supply, or conducting nature walks in the Blue Hills.

Posted by: dcs2244

If it made sense to "recreate" the MDC Police, then it didn't make sense to "uncreate" them in the first instance.

Posted by: rg1283

This would be easier said then done, considering protocol, etc. Why don't the MSP use civilians or centralize Dispatch Operations like the Boston Police has done over the past few years? That way there would be atleast one more Trooper on the Street per shift. Closing the Hull Barracks was a joke. In the early 90s you used to see the METs WALKING around the beach. Now (if the Detail for the Beaches gets funded) you see one Trooper sitting in his or her Cruiser. I know the MSP have a mission to respond to calls on state land, but each respective state agency has their own form of campus like police, which provides general policing and security to these facilities (DMH, DPH, DMR and Campus PDs). It would only make sense for the DCR to give there rangers some power, atleast at the Watershed level. I know I wouldn't want to sit around watching some park or reservoir with Racoons and Skunks staring at me if I had to go through New Braintree.

Posted by: Q5POS

Simple answer to protecting MDC areas as well as each barracks assigned patrol areas comes down to one simple answer.............. BODIES!!! If you have the people to cover it, it can be one. But if there's only two patrols out there shagging accidents and DMV's on the x-way all day then there doesn't leave much time for anything else.

The 78th RTT just completed break in and since they have been on, in my barracks we have been a desk and four. That is unheard of in our neck of the woods!! There's so many of us out on patrol now that we're bumping into each other. And with another classs (79th) slated to start in April, the 77th returning, and the 78th out on their own now, we'll be the best shape we've been in since the merger.

Posted by: nevrehc

RG1283 MSP does use civilian dispatchers. Get your facts straight Mr. Minimum of 2-3 on duty in each troop per night. Funny scenario as of late, if a trooper is on scene at a 16 on DCR road a local shows up and takes the stat with the info as if he responded. Why is that I ask? More money, more staffing, overall smart decision. Police yourself before you point fingers. We all need to get along and not worry about how the METS did it over 10 years ago. They don't exist and the amount of traffic has quadrupled since then. I would leave a 16 to find your killer, attacker or just assist you any day any where in the state. Last time I checked we didn't work for the insurance industry.

Right Delta 784, see you on the shore with the stats and I don't have somebody to book my prisoner.

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