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Posted by: LA Copper

Hello to my fellow Bostonians. I see that there are a few posts about NYPD so I thought I might mention my current department, the LAPD.

We also are trying to hire quite a few people. Supposedly we are trying to put on at least 700 in the next two years. That's quite a few folks! For those of you that have been languishing in civil service limbo, this could be something else to think about. I had the same problem back there before I came out west so I understand your plight.

We start at around $51,500 without a degree. It only goes up from there. Overtime is always available. The city is 465 square miles, the biggest city in the country as far as land mass goes. We have at least four million people so the population is not small.

The department has 19 different patrol divisons to choose from, plus specialized jobs such as: SWAT, Metro, K-9; Mounted; Air support; Detectives; Anti-terrorism; Narcotics; Bomb squad; Gang unit; etc, etc.... All the big gangs in this country started here in L.A. Bloods, Crips, MS-13 and 18th Street are all from here. There's plenty of bad guys to go around so you certainly wouldn't be bored.

The weather is always great and no humidity. That makes for year round crime! So, if you like to work and are having a hard time getting on the job there in New England, the west coast could be an option. There's a lot of Bostonians on the job here already, including our chief and assistant chief.

We have an out of state testing program where you would only have to come out twice to complete round of testing. If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or you can PM me. After 17 years here, I still love it!



Posted by: msw

Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Copper
Hello to my fellow Bostonians. I see that there are a few posts about NYPD so I thought I might mention my current department, the LAPD.
OK, I couldn't resist. LA Copper is plugging LAPD, so I figured I'd have to give a plug too, for my Dept, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department (LASD). Like LA Copper, I grew up in MA, and got fed up with the Civil Service situation there in the mid-1970's, came west and joined the LASD in 1977. I'm still here.

First of all, in California, Sheriff's Deputies ARE the "real police" too. We patrol all of the unincorporated County Areas, and, in LA County, a bunch (30 or 40, can't remember) independent cities that contract with us for all police services. We've got all the same specialized Units that LAPD has, K-9, SWAT, Dive Team, Aviation, Harbor Patrol, Motor Officers, Mounted Enforcement/Horsy stuff, all sorts of specialized Detective and Investigative Units (Homicide, Narcotics, Sex Crimes, Anti-Terrorism, Cargo Theft, etc etc etc.) And we also do some stuff that LAPD does not do, like run and staff the Jails (with a combination of sworn and non-sworn personnel); provide Bailiffs for the Municipal and Superior Courts; do prisoner transportation; provide County-wide Mountain Search & Rescue capability with our big "Air-5" helicopter and a variety of ground based SAR teams; have contracts to be the "Campus Police" for several L.A. Community Colleges; are contracted to be the "Transit Police" for most of L.A.'s bus and commuter rail lines; and probably a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting as well. And yes, working the Jail, as all new Deputies do before they go to Patrol is not all that much fun for most of us, but it is typically only a small part of your overall career. (In my 28+ years, I worked the jail for 2.5 years as a brand new Deputy, and then, again, as a new Sergeant, for 10 months, prior to going back to uniformed patrol.) Like LAPD, LASD also patrols a lot of high crime urban areas, ones that fall under County jusridiction, or are a "Contract City": the gang infested streets of the City of Compton, the Lennox area, Century/Lynwood/Firestone area, and East Los Angeles (and others) all provide for the fast-paced excitement of "inner city policing". And we have some "quiet" Stations also, like Crescenta Valley and Lost Hills/Malibu, for those that prefer a more "suburban" policing environment. So in a 20 or 30 year career, you can have a huge variety of assignments, if you so choose; or if you find an assignment you really like, you can typically stay with it for many years. (I've been a supervisor at our Aviation Unit for the last 8 years, and will likely remain until my retirement in 3 or 4 years.) And "rotating shifts"... boy do those suck, and something that I used to see a lot of on East Coast Departments...... are pretty much unheard of out here.

We are budgeted for around 9200 sworn personnel (Deputy Sheriffs) and I think we are currently "down" around 1000 Deputies. So we are always hiring. Lots of overtime is available. Starting pay is not as good as LAPD though: around $45,000 to $50,000 per year (the higher end is if you have a Bachelor's Degree) without overtime. Housing is not cheap out here, but no winter heating bills to speak of! It was 85 degrees here last week. Kind of a cold spell this week: 60's during the day and down intot he 40's at night. In most areas of L.A. County, we never have to shovel snow. Skiing is two hours away at Big Bear. Beaches are everywhere, and ........

........... for you young guys: The chicks are pretty hot out here too....... though I'm an old man now and only get to look.

The below link is to our LASD web page, lots of info there. And if anyone needs more info, I am also happy to answer any questions via PM or the list.

www.lasd.org



Posted by: LA Copper

MSW, I was wondering how long it would be before you came along!

For those of you wondering, the LAPD and the LASD have a bit of a rivalry... But it's all in fun. We get along pretty well.

And Mark, you can have the jails!



Posted by: msw

Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Copper
MSW, I was wondering how long it would be before you came along!
For those of you wondering, the LAPD and the LASD have a bit of a rivalry... But it's all in fun. We get along pretty well. And Mark, you can have the jails!
Yeah, I always thought working the jails sucked, though I didn't have to do it for very long. But there's plenty of guys that worked the jails as new Deputies, went to patrol for awhile and didn't like it (for whatever reason) and went back to work the jails for the remainder of their careers. At the same pay as any other Deputy (and a lot of OT available too.)

I guess my main point is that with a big Department, whether it be LAPD, LASD, NYPD or any other large law enforcement agency, a young man (or woman!) can have the opportunity for a really wide variety of assignments during a long career. And that is something that is probably not going to be available to those who choose a small Department. Different strokes for different folks ............



Posted by: LA Copper

Just to add a little more info:

We work a 3/12 schedule, 3 working days a week, 12 hour watches. That's 4 days off every week! Plus, you get to pick what days off you want. You normally aren't told when you are off like for instance the 4 and 2 many of the departments are there in Mass.

Within 5 years, you can fairly easily make over $80,000 a year. I know many patrol officers who make over $100,000 a year with overtime. Of course if you want to get some type of off duty job, that is ok too. I know of several officers who work with celebrities as body guards and such. Some guys work on movie and TV sets as security. Other guys work as advisors for TV and movies.

There's plenty to do for the family and friends when they come out to visit from home: Disneyland; Universal Studios; Magic Mountain; Venice Beach; Hollywood; Beverly Hills; Knotts Berry Farm; The Tonight Show; The taping of regular TV shows; etc.

The academy is 7 months long but it is NOT a live in. Your probation is a year long. You work a regular black and white right out of the academy. After probation you can transfer to any patrol division in the city. After 4 years you can try to promote to detective, FTO, or sergeant.

The main attraction is there is a lot of police work to do so for those of you who want to work, this is a great place. We always have over 500 homicides and thousands of robberies, burglaries and GTAs per year. We are the gang capital and the bank robbery capital of the country so there's lots to do. Never a dull moment!



Posted by: EOD1

hey i wanna give it a try, but that damn wife!!! & i need a little money! I might try to time it and take a road trip, and take a few tests. but i am not giving MA more than a year or so.



Posted by: LA Copper

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Originally Posted by EOD1
hey i wanna give it a try, but that damn wife!!! & i need a little money! I might try to time it and take a road trip, and take a few tests. but i am not giving MA more than a year or so.
If you decide to give it a try, let me know and I'll see what I can do to help you out. Same for any of you that might want to come out and have a look. If you decide to fly out, I have found that the cheapest rates are almost always when you fly on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday.



Posted by: msw

Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Copper
If you decide to fly out, I have found that the cheapest rates are almost always when you fly on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday.
If you fly out, consider Jet Blue, they are a great airline, with non-stop flights from Boston to Long Beach. Long Beach is about 20 mins south of LAX, but a much easier airport to get into and out of than L.A. Int'l Airport (LAX). I'm coming back to MA to visit in the spring, and my Jet Blue round trip ticket was only $231.00.



Posted by: docdpl

Hi all-

I know this is my first post so therefore I'm a creepy lurker, but I've been thinking about a career in law enforcement for some time, and now that I'm dating a girl from California and having visited her home state several times, its safe to say that freezing cold days like this one don't do much to convince me to stay. I am interested in the LAPD/LASO and have begun to look into things on their respective websites. In doing so I also found a posting for the Los Angeles Port Police and am somewhat curious about that agency. I'm sure its not an action packed gig like the LAPD, but my reason for wondering is that I'm currently employed in the marine transportation business and a USCG licensed captain. So, what's the deal with them? The Port of LA website did not provide much info, so I'm hoping to get the inside scoop. Do they just patrol container ship terminals? Do they see any action? I understand that they aren't LAPD/LASO so you won't necessarily know, but any info would be much appreciated. Also, thanks so much for the info you've both provided already.

-Stay safe-



Posted by: msw

Quote:
Originally Posted by docdpl
Hi all-

I know this is my first post so therefore I'm a creepy lurker, but I've been thinking about a career in law enforcement for some time.............. posting for the Los Angeles Port Police and am somewhat curious about that agency.
From what I've seen and heard ........ boring. IMHO, You need to think in terms of enough action and variety to keep your level of interest up throughout a 20 or 30 year career.

Good luck.

http://www.lacity.org/per/exams/exam3221.htm



Posted by: docdpl

Quote:
Originally Posted by msw
From what I've seen and heard ........ boring. IMHO, You need to think in terms of enough action and variety to keep your level of interest up throughout a 20 or 30 year career.

Good luck.

http://www.lacity.org/per/exams/exam3221.htm

Yeah, thats sort of what I thought. I'm done with boredom. Five years of driving the same ferry route will get to you. I think I'll keep looking around, but LAPD seems like the best show in town. They don't have a marine unit, do they? Any out of state departments with a decent (read: active) marine unit? I know the guys at Boston Harbor Patrol, and while they're good guys, they don't seem to have much to do, except test out their brand new boats by taking friends for cruises.



Posted by: msw

Quote:
Originally Posted by docdpl
Yeah, thats sort of what I thought. I'm done with boredom. Five years of driving the same ferry route will get to you. I think I'll keep looking around, but LAPD seems like the best show in town. They don't have a marine unit, do they? Any out of state departments with a decent (read: active) marine unit? I know the guys at Boston Harbor Patrol, and while they're good guys, they don't seem to have much to do, except test out their brand new boats by taking friends for cruises.
I don't think LAPD has a marine unit, LA Copper would know. LASD does have a couple of boat units: a Harbor Patrol/Marine Unit, based at Marina Del Rey (I think they have three or four boats there, bigger ones are maybe 40 footers? I don't know much about boats but they look about that big when I fly over them - I'm an aviation unit guy) and there is also a marine/lake patrol unit at one of our bigger lakes, Castaic. If you are going to come out to Calif and test, it would probably make sense to visit, do ride-a-longs, and apply at and test at both LAPD and LASD.



Posted by: docdpl

Quote:
Originally Posted by msw
I don't think LAPD has a marine unit, LA Copper would know. LASD does have a couple of boat units: a Harbor Patrol/Marine Unit, based at Marina Del Rey (I think they have three or four boats there, bigger ones are maybe 40 footers? I don't know much about boats but they look about that big when I fly over them - I'm an aviation unit guy) and there is also a marine/lake patrol unit at one of our bigger lakes, Castaic. If you are going to come out to Calif and test, it would probably make sense to visit, do ride-a-longs, and apply at and test at both LAPD and LASD.
Thanks for the info, and that's a very good idea about the testing. Much appreciated!



Posted by: LA Copper

I would agree with MSW, the Port Police would be kind of boring. Kinda like working the airport, except with boats. Although they also get to check through trailers on the docks too. I'm sure since 9-11 they have a bigger role in port security. Not my cup of tea but if that's what you like, go for it.

LAPD does not have a marine unit. The closest we have is a Dive Team. They work with the Port Police and dive in both the ocean and fresh water. I work with several Dive Team guys now. They are always doing training and receiving call outs.

If you do decide to come out here, let us know. We'll see what we can do for you.



Posted by: LA Copper

Chief Bratton attended my roll call tonight and reiterated that we are seriously trying to hire 1000 new officers in the coming two years. We are going to lose approximately 750 people to the DROP Program in the next two years, which doesn't include the normal amount of people who leave for regular reasons, i.e., retirements; resignations; deaths; etc.

Now is the time if you want to give us a try. It's a great job for those of you who want to do serious police work in the land of sunshine, especially if you are having the usual troubles with Civil Service.



Posted by: TripleSeven

Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Copper
Chief Bratton attended my roll call tonight and reiterated that we are seriously trying to hire 1000 new officers in the coming two years. We are going to lose approximately 750 people to the DROP Program in the next two years, which doesn't include the normal amount of people who leave for regular reasons, i.e., retirements; resignations; deaths; etc.

Now is the time if you want to give us a try. It's a great job for those of you who want to do serious police work in the land of sunshine, especially if you are having the usual troubles with Civil Service.
Just became a single man again.. now i'm a single 24 yr old in Vermont... If only LAPD took laterals.



Posted by: msw

Quote:
Originally Posted by VSP Troop
Just became a single man again.. now i'm a single 24 yr old in Vermont... If only LAPD took laterals.
You're a Vt State Trooper and 24 years old? I don't think you'd have any trouble getting through LAPD's Academy; or LASD's; or any California Academy. BTW, it looks like LASD Dep's will be getting an 18.5% pay raise over the next 30 months, pretty good chunk of change (finally).



Posted by: LA Copper

MSW, congrats on the new contract, hopefully that will help you guys get some folks. LAPD is currently in contract negotiations and should have a new contract by this summer. Hopefully we will get one comprable to yours.

Also, my condolences to you and your department for the loss of your fellow deputy in Lancaster.

VSP, I've got a buddy who is on the job back there in New Hampshire, It looks like his academy time and in-service classes are close enough that he will be able to lateral over to California POST. He was just out here last week taking two classes which allowed him to complete the requirements. Now he only has to complete a kickback two month LAPD academy. If you are interested, send me a PM and I'll tell you about it.





Posted by: Crvtte65

Quote:
Originally Posted by docdpl
I know this is my first post so therefore I'm a creepy lurker
You're giving me the heebie jeebies

Quote:
Originally Posted by docdpl
but I've been thinking about a career in law enforcement for some time, and now that I'm dating a girl from California and having visited her home state several times, its safe to say that freezing cold days like this one don't do much to convince me to stay. I am interested in the LAPD/LASO and have begun to look into things on their respective websites. In doing so I also found a posting for the Los Angeles Port Police and am somewhat curious about that agency. I'm sure its not an action packed gig like the LAPD, but my reason for wondering is that I'm currently employed in the marine transportation business and a USCG licensed captain. So, what's the deal with them? The Port of LA website did not provide much info, so I'm hoping to get the inside scoop. Do they just patrol container ship terminals? Do they see any action? I understand that they aren't LAPD/LASO so you won't necessarily know, but any info would be much appreciated. Also, thanks so much for the info you've both provided already.

-Stay safe-
A friend of mine from MA went over to San Diego PD and loves it there. Though I don't know about a port police. Also, a co-worked of mine (or now technically former) left LAPD to come back to the Boston area. Did the Marines then LAPD and just wanted to relax in his 30's. He said he loved it but just got tired of his area.



Posted by: csauce777

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crvtte65
You're giving me the heebie jeebies



A friend of mine from MA went over to San Diego PD and loves it there. Though I don't know about a port police. Also, a co-worked of mine (or now technically former) left LAPD to come back to the Boston area. Did the Marines then LAPD and just wanted to relax in his 30's. He said he loved it but just got tired of his area.
San Diego PD has their own harbor unit, as well as the San Diego Harbor Police Department. The harbor police provide all police and firefighting in and around San Diego harbor and the airport. All officers are also firefighters, and believe it or not, they are all issued turnout gear with their police equipment. They rotate between assignments. They have their own K-9's, boats, jetskis, cruisers, etc. When they do test its very competetive. Check it out...http://www.sdhp.com/



Posted by: j809

San Diego has lots of problems, guys are leaving the department at record numbers. They had a few articles on the troublesome PD in APB magazine.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by j809
San Diego has lots of problems, guys are leaving the department at record numbers. They had a few articles on the troublesome PD in APB magazine.
Were they the ones that produced the racy videotape for someone's retirement party, with scantily-clad female officers?



Posted by: atrain104

Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Copper

We have an out of state testing program where you would only have to come out twice to complete round of testing. If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or you can PM me. After 17 years here, I still love it!
Im a lurker too and occasional post.....thanks for the info LA copper.

Well it sounds great, why wait. Ill be filling out the BI right now so we will see what happens. Im 24, a Vet, and I already dont feel like waiting forever for this CS crap. Hope to be out there soon.



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by atrain104
Im a lurker too and occasional post.....thanks for the info LA copper.

Well it sounds great, why wait. Ill be filling out the BI right now so we will see what happens. Im 24, a Vet, and I already dont feel like waiting forever for this CS crap. Hope to be out there soon.
That's the spirit! If I can be of any help, please let me know. Look at it this way, if it doesn't work out for whatever reason, you're still young enough to go back to Mass and go back to trying it with Civil Service.



Posted by: j809

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
Were they the ones that produced the racy videotape for someone's retirement party, with scantily-clad female officers?
It might have been!!!



Posted by: KozmoKramer

Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Copper
...Within 5 years, you can fairly easily make over $80,000 a year. I know many patrol officers who make over $100,000 a year with overtime....
LA Copper - 80K a year where I live (so. central NH) is actually a pretty decent living, add another 20K and it's an excellent living.
In Boston, or some of the surrounding suburbs, its an OK living. My opinion of LA is its cost of living is as high, if not a good deal higher than Boston. Especially since a lot of "big money" heads out west. Can an LAPD officer earning 80-100k a year live well, or is that a relatively meager wage in that part of the country?

Dont get me wrong. anyone single earning 80-100k a year out here is doing well, but add a house, a spouse, and a "couple of deductions" and that drops your doing well to doing "kind of OK" pretty quickly... How about LA?



Posted by: docdpl

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
Were they the ones that produced the racy videotape for someone's retirement party, with scantily-clad female officers?
I think that was San Francisco actually.

CSauce, thanks for the info on SDHPD, I'm definetly looking into that as well as LAPD/SO



Posted by: Irishlacop

Quote:
Originally Posted by KozmoKramer
LA Copper - 80K a year where I live (so. central NH) is actually a pretty decent living, add another 20K and it's an excellent living.
In Boston, or some of the surrounding suburbs, its an OK living. My opinion of LA is its cost of living is as high, if not a good deal higher than Boston. Especially since a lot of "big money" heads out west. Can an LAPD officer earning 80-100k a year live well, or is that a relatively meager wage in that part of the country?

Dont get me wrong. anyone single earning 80-100k a year out here is doing well, but add a house, a spouse, and a "couple of deductions" and that drops your doing well to doing "kind of OK" pretty quickly... How about LA?
Last year I made over $90,000 and I live a very comfortable life style. My wife works per diem as a nurse and we do just fine. Very few and I mean very few officers for LAPD live in the City of Los Angeles or near it. You just can't afford it. I live approx 45 min from the City. The commute isn't bad because I travel at off hours. It takes me about 35 min to get home at night (0200 hrs). The cost of living out here is in my opinion higher than Massachusetts and plus what you get for the money, you can't even compare it to Mass. The houses are big, but no yards at all. I would seriously consider coming out here and try to get on. I, along with LACOPPER went through the same shit all you guys complain about (Civil Service). Except we got sick of it and moved west. You can always go back to Mass after working out here and when you do you will have a great resume to bring with you.



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by Irishlacop
Last year I made over $90,000 and I live a very comfortable life style. My wife works per diem as a nurse and we do just fine. Very few and I mean very few officers for LAPD live in the City of Los Angeles or near it. You just can't afford it. I live approx 45 min from the City. The commute isn't bad because I travel at off hours. It takes me about 35 min to get home at night (0200 hrs). The cost of living out here is in my opinion higher than Massachusetts and plus what you get for the money, you can't even compare it to Mass. The houses are big, but no yards at all. I would seriously consider coming out here and try to get on. I, along with LACOPPER went through the same shit all you guys complain about (Civil Service). Except we got sick of it and moved west. You can always go back to Mass after working out here and when you do you will have a great resume to bring with you.
What he said. Plus the weather is much better!



Posted by: Mitpo62

I did what you guys did, but went south instead and wound up coming back. However, I agree that it is better to find a solution for the problem (MOVE) then complain about the problem (civil service).



Posted by: EOD1

I wanna go out west, I really do. However my wife refuses to move outside of our little area of MA. & now that she is pregnant, I am never leaving this damn state. I thought about moving out there by myself (renting a really cheap place to live and buying a house in MA) so I can atleast start my LE career, but once again know that she is pregnant I am stuck in this state.



Posted by: LA Copper

I just got home from the ground breaking ceremony for the new Rampart police station. Chief Bratton was there, along with the mayor and Assistant Chief Jim McDonnell. What's kinda "cool" is that both Bratton and McDonnell are from Boston, just like me! We got to talking and were able to get a picture. Of course it was funny to hear the three of us with our Boston accents in Los Angeles. Three guys from Boston on the LAPD, including the number one and number two people in the department. Who would'a thunk it!

By the way, both Bratton and the mayor mentioned again that we are still trying to hire 700 to 1000 more officers. Now's the time!



Posted by: RPD931

LA Copper,

If folks were to venture to LAPD, what areas outside of LA do you recommend for living?



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by RPD931
LA Copper,

If folks were to venture to LAPD, what areas outside of LA do you recommend for living?
Just outside of L.A. I would recommend Burbank. I lived there for twelve years and liked it. It's clean, close to everything, lots to do and very little crime. (I got married a couple of years ago and moved out, otherwise I'd still be there.) If you don't mind the drive, Simi Valley and Santa Clarita are very nice. Both are about 30 miles north of downtown. I currently live in Santa Clarita, along with a ton of other cops, including another Weymouth guy and a Bridgewater guy.

There are lots of other places east and south of the city that are within 30 miles also. East is more towards the desert and south is more beach communities. Some examples:

East: Claremont; Chino Hills; San Dimas; Glendora; Sierra Madre.
South: Redondo Beach; Manhattan Beach; Huntington Beach.

Most anyplace in south Orange County, but that's a pretty long drive, although some guys do it. Don't forget, all of patrol is either a 3/12 or a 4/10 so you don't have to drive every day. Some guys even stay in the Cot Room at the station and only have to drive in a couple of days a week. Whatever works for ya. There are a lot more highways out here than back there so there is always alternative routes into the city.

If anyone is really interested, I'm more than happy to talk to you or come on out and I'll show you around. If nothing else, you'll get a decent vacation out of it.



Posted by: SGT_GRUNT_USMC

Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Copper
I just got home from the ground breaking ceremony for the new Rampart police station. Chief Bratton was there, along with the mayor and Assistant Chief Jim McDonnell. What's kinda "cool" is that both Bratton and McDonnell are from Boston, just like me! We got to talking and were able to get a picture. Of course it was funny to hear the three of us with our Boston accents in Los Angeles. Three guys from Boston on the LAPD, including the number one and number two people in the department. Who would'a thunk it!

By the way, both Bratton and the mayor mentioned again that we are still trying to hire 700 to 1000 more officers. Now's the time!
Chief Bratton spoke to my academy class.It was pretty cool being a Mass guy going through the Las Vegas police academy and having Bratton come talk to us about policing.



Posted by: EOD1

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East: Claremont; Chino Hills; San Dimas; Glendora; Sierra Madre.
cool i wanna live were bill & ted lived



Posted by: EASTCOASTCOP

I am def. thinking of trying out for the L.A.P.D the only thing is i dont want to waste the time and money flying back and forth for 2 or 3 interviews and a written test and a pats test if i have no chance. I will have a bachelors degree in C.J in may/06, i have the part time academy in Ma, i got the cpr, first responder,A.E.D, E911-dispatch, and part time police experience......Realistically what are my chances of making it????and how much would i expect to pay(test fees?) roughly??? im pretty serious about trying out since MA. sucks at hiring police! Thanks to any one who can help me out with info...... and good luck to those still looking for jobs in MA!



Posted by: Irishlacop

Quote:
Originally Posted by EASTCOASTCOP
I am def. thinking of trying out for the L.A.P.D the only thing is i dont want to waste the time and money flying back and forth for 2 or 3 interviews and a written test and a pats test if i have no chance. I will have a bachelors degree in C.J in may/06, i have the part time academy in Ma, i got the cpr, first responder,A.E.D, E911-dispatch, and part time police experience......Realistically what are my chances of making it????and how much would i expect to pay(test fees?) roughly??? im pretty serious about trying out since MA. sucks at hiring police! Thanks to any one who can help me out with info...... and good luck to those still looking for jobs in MA!
Contact our recruitment unit and ask about our "out of towner" testing. You can get all of you tests done in a week. Unless they have changed our hiring process, there isn't any test fees. Like I said before, I too experienced the awesome hiring procedures back home. I think that this would be a great experience for you and a very nice addition to your resume,should you decide to move back to Mass. All that other training that you have is nice to mention during your oral, but unless you have military experience you won't receive any more points.

I think that with your bachelors degree you get hired two steps ahead of someone with just a high school degree or GED. Like myself I have 8 yrs on and I am a top step FTO. Unless I promote to SGT or the next raise comes, I will keep making this pay. But........... Its good pay!!!



Posted by: Irishlacop

Here are some numbers for you to call regarding the hiring process for LAPD

(866) 444-LAPD - Recruitment Unit
(213) 847-9060 - Expedited hiring process (3 consecutive days of testing)

joinlapd@lapd.lacity.org Recruitment Unit

I hope this helps you out or others interested in LAPD



Posted by: LA Copper

Eastcoastcop,
You sound like a motivated individual... just what any department is looking for. You ask what are your chances, well that depends on how well you do on the tests. From your post, you sound as motivated as anyone and probably more!

LAPD does NOT have any testing fees, all tests are free. You would most likely have to fly out here twice to complete them. I sit on entry level oral boards so I could help out there.

Unfortunately, your part time academy would not qualify you as a lateral, you would still have to attend the full time, 7 month, non live-in academy. (Yes, you get paid full pay while attending the academy.) The fact that you have the CPR and the dispatcher experience behind you would only make you sound that much more qualified for the job, as would the Bachelor's Degree.

There's only one way to find out, give it a shot!



Posted by: msw

If any of you are considering coming out to Southern California to "test" for law enforcement jobs, you might want to research all the agencies that are hiring, and maybe do the application/testing process with 2 or 3 or even more, while you are out here. As another of the transplants here from MA, that is what I did, almost 30 years ago. Besides LAPD, I know that L.A. Sheriff's Dept is looking to hire several hundred Deputies, and we just got a pay raise, 18.5% over the next 2 1/2 years. I think starting Deputy Sheriff pay is now around $51,000/yr. There is usually LOTS of overtime available.

There are many other large (and small) Police Dept's in Southern Calif that might be hiring. Some of the bigger Dept's like Glendale PD, Torrance PD, Santa Ana PD, Santa Monica PD and many others might be hiring. I know that Orange County Sheriff's Dept, San Bernardino County Sheriff's Dept are usually hiring. The California Highway Patrol is always hiring; just be aware that they are primarily a traffic law enforcement agency, they are not a true State Police Department like the Massachusetts State Police. (But still, a very professional, well-trained, active, agency.) All these agencies have web sites now, so with a little web research, you can determine just who is hiring and what their starting pay is.

If anyone ends up out here from MA to do testing, I'd be happy to set you up with a ride-along at any L.A. Sheriff's Patrol Station (you let me know if you want it to be one of our quiet areas, or one of our busy, crime-infested areas ..... your choice!) or other tours of facilities, like our Jail (yeah, new Dep's have to work the Jail before they can go to Patrol; it sort of sucks, but isn't that bad, and there's lots of overtime at the Jails); even set you up with a fly-along at our Aviation Unit if you want.

Good Luck!



Posted by: KozmoKramer

LACopper, IrishLACop, MSW - you guys are OK...
Thanks for taking the time to offer such great information..



Posted by: EOD1

Quote:
Some of the bigger Dept's like Glendale PD
glendale is hiring.
http://www.ci.glendale.ca.us/police/police_jobs.asp



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by KozmoKramer
LACopper, IrishLACop, MSW - you guys are OK...
Thanks for taking the time to offer such great information..
Absolutely, we are always happy to help! We hope that everyone who is hoping for a job there in Mass is able to get it. But for those who can't or those who are looking into something different, this is the place!



Posted by: LA Copper

Related websites:

http://lapdonline.org
and
http://joinlapd.com



Posted by: THE RP

I have been watching LA COPPER trying soooooo hard to earn himself some of those recruitment bonuses and I thought it was time I threw in and backed him up....If I was getting out of school, trying to grab a job, I would be getting on a plane by the end of the week. The funny thing is, the only place in the world I would love to do this job, after being in the business for so long here, is in LA.......That whole LA area has a lot of adventure in it. There's an electricity in the air...I doubt it gets old there as quick as it does here. And I bet for a few of us, thats just what we need...


Copper whats the name of that rooftop nightclub in downtown LA? The one that was real trendy last year and is up in between all the skyscrapers? ..It was pretty cool after a long day of seminars last May...Your boys can really put on a get-together and I only got chewed out once by one of your motor cops for jay walking...Yes jay walking is for real there folks..

After hanging with some of those guys for a week last year, I can say, it is, no doubt a different world, when you talk policing..The whole lifestyle out there and society out there, is just something different...If I could, I would jump but I'm too old and the kids are too old so my loss is your gain..Anyone out there thinking about getting on somewhere...GO...And if you want to take in a Sox game there's always a place called Sonny MaClean's in Santa Monica. You will feel right at home there...

Also no favorites here because we also tipped a few with a group of retired Sheriffs guys who knew how to have fun. I should mention that it was on his boat, in some marina somewhere. Not too bad whatsoever....I think that county gig wouldn't be too bad either..

Be safe brothers. Keep low and remember the only thing we have here is that we watch Monday night football really at night..Not in the evening.



Posted by: LA Copper

RP,
You're very kind, I appreciate the comments. I can remember back in "my day" when I was trying so hard to get on the job there in Massachusetts, taking the tests and hoping for the best. Alas, I guess it wasn't to be. I was 26 when I finally made the move out west, leaving my family and friends behind. It wasn't an easy move to make, that's for sure, especially alone. (I still come back two or three times a year to visit and for some R and R.)

I read many of the posts on this site and I see myself 18 years ago. Because of that, I just thought I might try to give some of you folks an alternative if for whatever reason the job thing doesn't work out in Mass. As far as the job out here goes, I have absolutely no regrets about coming out west, it's been a blast the whole time! You're right RP, it's definitely an adventure. I've seen and done so much in my 17 1/2 years, I can't remember it all. Police work is done a bit differently out here and true, it doesn't get old.

RP or anyone else who happens to read this, if you happen to come out west again, please let me know so we can hook up for a ride along or a Dodger game. (I guess I'm out of touch but I don't know the name of the nightclub downtown.) It is pretty neat to watch a Monday Night Football game at 6:00 in the evening instead of having to wait until 9:00. Plus I have NESN so I still get to watch the ol' Red Sox! Who are some of those new guys?!

Good luck to all of you still trying to get on there in Mass, I hope it all works out for you. But, if it doesn't, feel free to give us a look. Both LAPD and LASD are trying to hire a lot of folks in the next year or two. Remember, if you don't like it out here for whatever reason, you can always finish the academy and try to transfer back home. I know several people who have done it. Good luck and be safe!



Posted by: thumper2168

Is this the guy with the sis in CIS/SP?? Last time I saw you we were being mugged by those bums in Santa Monica... PM me...



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by thumper2168
Is this the guy with the sis in CIS/SP?? Last time I saw you we were being mugged by those bums in Santa Monica... PM me...
Huh?



Posted by: thumper2168

Sorry thought this was Mike O'Leary from Metro...



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by thumper2168
Sorry thought this was Mike O'Leary from Metro...
Sorry, I'm Mike from Rampart. I just checked the department roster and O'Leary doesn't show.



Posted by: Enforcer174

LaCopper, How long is the test results good for from the LAPD exam? I took the written exam at N Hollywood station about 2 years ago and passed it. I just havent had the time to follow up with the rest of the phases of the process..

Thanx



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enforcer174
LaCopper, How long is the test results good for from the LAPD exam? I took the written exam at N Hollywood station about 2 years ago and passed it. I just havent had the time to follow up with the rest of the phases of the process..
North Hollywood is my old stomping grounds! I spent almost nine years there during the 90s. What did you think of the station, it's only 8 years old.

From what I understand, the written is good forever. Did you do the essay also? If so, you're good to go for the remainder of the process.



Posted by: Enforcer174

Yes, I did the essay when I was there. There was about 15 people taking the test and when i looked around during the test some of the testers just gave up on the test.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Copper
North Hollywood is my old stomping grounds! I spent almost nine years there during the 90s. What did you think of the station, it's only 8 years old.

From what I understand, the written is good forever. Did you do the essay also? If so, you're good to go for the remainder of the process.




Posted by: LA Copper

It's funny how times change. I remember while I was working there in North Hollywood, they gave the test every Tuesday and Thursday nights. There was always a line down the street waiting to get in to take the test. So much for that I guess.



Posted by: Enforcer174

Yes, I also took the test on a thursday night there. The test is alot different than MA civil service test. I believe the LAPD test is alot harder than any other police or federal exam that I have taken over the years. If we had that type of testing here it would eliminte alot of people.I dont think a high school diploma will help you get past the test it was geared more towards college education but that is just my opinion on the test. Some of the guys hung around after the test and said it was so hard they gave up.

I am trying to return there soon to finish the testing for interview and PT. But LA is a place like no other and I loved it while visiting family out there near glendale. It is just so unbelievable how many Law Enforcement and support position that is out there in CA. I took interest even with some of the positions listed on the LA website for fingerprint tech and crime scene invs... Iam getting to old out here in MA to get on the Police and even to get on would be a miracle with the civil circus.

Thanx LA COPPER for the info I will be in touch




Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Copper
It's funny how times change. I remember while I was working there in North Hollywood, they gave the test every Tuesday and Thursday nights. There was always a line down the street waiting to get in to take the test. So much for that I guess.




Posted by: LA Copper

I guess the test must have changed over the years since I took it back in 1988. Back then I thought it was fairly easy. If you do decide to come out for the remainder of the testing, make sure you let me know.



Posted by: LA Copper

We just had another officer shot, this time with an AK-47. This is at least 6 Officer Involved Shootings in the last month, two with hits on the officer. This last one is very lucky to be alive. He was hit three times, twice in the abdomen and once in the wrist, almost severing his hand.

If you're looking for action, the L.A. area is a great place to try!



Posted by: LA Copper

By the way, we recently received a 10% pay raise. Our retirement is 90% at 33 years. We are still looking to hire over a 1000 officers for those of you still looking..



Posted by: Deuce

Tell ya what, along with the 10% issue me an AK with liberal ROE's and maybe I'll fill out an app.......



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deuce
Tell ya what, along with the 10% issue me an AK with liberal ROE's and maybe I'll fill out an app.......
Actually, we do issue M-16s to patrol officers after you go to the five day school... Come on down!



Posted by: Deuce

Umm I'm already issued an M4/203, kinda looking for something different..



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deuce
Umm I'm already issued an M4/203, kinda looking for something different..
That's the best I can do for you, other than you might actually get the chance to shoot it at someone out here!



Posted by: Deuce

Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Copper
you might actually get the chance to shoot it at someone out here!
Although that gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling my wife isn't too interested. Maybe I can work on her....



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deuce
Although that gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling my wife isn't too interested. Maybe I can work on her....
Good luck.. Try a vacation out here first and see what happens..



Posted by: nesportsfan

LA Copper, are you or do you know Scott Dafoe? I grew up with him way back and lost touch with him. I understand he is a Sargeant on the SWAT team these days along with being a movie and t.v. star.



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by nesportsfan
LA Copper, are you or do you know Scott Dafoe? I grew up with him way back and lost touch with him. I understand he is a Sargeant on the SWAT team these days along with being a movie and t.v. star.
I'm not him but I do know him. Most of us Bostonians know each other out here.
You are right, he is currently a SWAT sergeant. I can get you a phone number if you'd like to talk to him.



Posted by: nesportsfan

LA Copper, I sent you a PM.

Thanks!



Posted by: LA Copper

I attended our Medal of Valor ceremony yesterday. What an awesome event with some pretty brave people, several of which were shot but survived and overcame. Once again, made me proud to be a member of this department. Also got to have another picture taken with the venerable Chief Daryl Gates. He still looks great after all these years!

If you're still trying to get on the job, come on out and check us out!



Posted by: LA Copper

Wow, just saw we got our 4000 hit on this post! I didn't know there would be this much interest in the LAPD. Thanks to all who checked us out and keep the questions coming. Good luck to everyone in their careers.



Posted by: LA Copper

For anyone interested, the Fox Reality Channel has a "marathon" of LAPD; Life On The Beat, on TV today. Today being Saturday October 7, 2006. Check it out and see some of our guys in action. Maybe I'll be on today too!



Posted by: Machito

I'm origanally from MA now living in Chicago ..I took the LAPD test and passed now I'm scheduled for expedited testing next week. can't wait to go out to L.A. it will be my first time.



Posted by: Boss173

It's time to start this thread up again. Even with the thousands of job openings in Massachusetts for police officers, I am thinking about heading out west for a few years (or longer) and becoming a police officer. The LAPD is one of the departments I plan on applying to, in addition to Huntington Beach and a few others. I will be graduating in May 2007 with a bachelors in Criminal Justice and Political Science. I have spent the last 3 years interning/working for the Diplomatic Security Service Training Division with the room entry and defenseive tactics unit. Before taking a trip out west to apply, I have a few questions.

I have been told that the LAPD is watched like a hawk. Everyone is just waiting for you to make a mistake and then hammer you for it. Do you feel like you are constantly being watched?

How long does the background check take for out-of-state applicants? I am from outside of Boston.

LA Copper...is that ride along offer still on the table? When I come out to LA to test I would like to get out on the street for a few hours if possible.

Thanks



Posted by: LA Copper

Hi Boss,
Congrats on almost completing your degree. What school are you attending?

Yes, we are constantly being watched but who isn't nowadays? Of course since Los Angeles is the media capital of the world, we are probably watched with a bit more zeal then other departments. A good example is the most recent video that is floating around. It will get more air time because it's LAPD than it would if it were someplace else.

Southern California has lots of openings for officers, certainly a lot more than Massachusetts. As far as which department to go for, it depends on what you're looking for.
If you want a lot of action, do a lot of "real" police work, get a pretty good paycheck, and work in the second biggest city in America, then LA is the way to go. If you're looking for "some" action in a small city, with a bit better paycheck, then Huntington Beach and cities like it are the way to go.

Because you are 3000 miles away and we're trying to hire so many people, the background can take anywhere from three to six months or so. It may be a bit faster 'cause you're young and don't have a lot of years to accumulate bad stuff that could be held against you.

Yes, for any folks on this site that want to come on a ride along, I will do my best to accomodate you. I'll also show you all the neat cop stuff too.

When are you thinking of coming out?



Posted by: msw

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss173
It's time to start this thread up again. Even with the thousands of job openings in Massachusetts for police officers, I am thinking about heading out west for a few years (or longer) and becoming a police officer. ...............Thanks
Do a lot of homework before you come out to California. I suggest that you set up ride-alongs with multiple agencies and query the recruitment units of a lot of the Dept's who are hiring, before you come out to California. You should attempt to set up your initial testing process - in advance - with as many agencies as possible so you get those initial applications/tests done in one visit.

BTW, also consider the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department..... we do all the same things that LAPD does - and more. (Our SEB SWAT Team now even has a Navy!) And yes, I know, some of the things LASD does - like the Jails and the Courts - are not great fun for a lot of folks........ but we've got Patrol, Detectives, more specialized units and task forces than I can keep track of, and it is all part of a 30 year career. (I moved out here from MA almost 30 years ago, thinking it might only be "for a few years" ......... and never went back!) Remember that in most western states - including California - and unlike in MA - Sheriff's Departments are "full" law enforcement agencies, that do everything.

If you get out to Southern California and would like a ride-along at one of our patrol stations, just PM me and I'll set it up for you. (You'll need to let me know if your preference is one of our quiet, suburban area patrol stations, or one of our gang infested, high crime patrol areas, like Compton or Century....... we have something to suit mosts "tastes") I can even set up a "fly-along" in one of our helicopters on patrol, if you want, just let me know before you come out here.



Posted by: LA Copper

Here's a link to some good L.A. area pursuits. If you are considering coming out to the L.A. area, here's some pretty good "action" for you.

http://cbs2.com/carchase/



Posted by: Boss173

How many people is LAPD/LASD looking to hire in '07?



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss173
How many people is LAPD/LASD looking to hire in '07?
can't speak for LASD although I believe they're trying to hire several hundred. LAPD is trying to hire close to 1000 people over the next year or two. We're gonna have about 400 retirements this year, plus Chief Bratton is still trying to get us up to 10,000 officers. Right now we're about 9450 so between replacing the retirements and trying to get the numbers up to 10,000, that's about 1000 people to be hired.

Now is a good time to give it a try. You've got nothing to lose if you try and if you get on and don't like it, you can always go back home. That was my philosophy when I first came out here. Eighteen years later I still love it.



Posted by: LA Copper

Hi,
To whomoever sent me the two private messages in the last few days, my apologies for not getting back to you. Something is wrong my PMs. I can't open them for some reason. I've been trying for a few days now but for whatever reason, they won't open. As soon as I'm able to open them, I shall respond, thanks.



Posted by: uspresident1

Hey LACOPPER,

I was always thinking of moving out west and starting my career early. I got a little experince under my belt as of now and still working towards my degree. But I'm still real young. How old are some of the younger officers there?



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by uspresident1
Hey LACOPPER,

I was always thinking of moving out west and starting my career early. I got a little experince under my belt as of now and still working towards my degree. But I'm still real young. How old are some of the younger officers there?
Folks can get into the academy at 21 but that's a bit young. We have a few probationers at my division who are only 23 so it can be done. Of course the younger you are, the faster your background would go because there's a lot less stuff to be investigated.

Getting hired young also has another advantage. If you come out here, get on the job and don't like it for whatever reason, you can always go back home and still be young. I had just turned 26 when I first came out here. I told myself I'd give it two years before I made a decision. 18 years later I'm still here and I still love the job. I've also gained a ton of experience and training so if I decide to do something else, I can use that on my resume.

The LAPD just started a new hiring incentive program. If you come on the job now and make it to probation, the City will give you $5,000. That would cover all your moving expenses and such. I wish they had that when I first came out here!



Posted by: LA Copper

We just had another LAPD officer shot today. A guy I work with was hit three times, two of which were stopped by his vest, thank God. The third round went under his arm, into his chest and out his back. This is the second LAPD officer that has been shot this year. Plus we've already had eleven Officer Involved Shootings in 2007!

My point is, for those of you who are still looking for "action," it's still out here, just like I'm sure it's also in Las Vegas and LASD. Come give either of us a try, it's exciting (and dangerous!).



Posted by: alphadog1

I read an article the Officer that was shot is a native of Chelmsford, MA. The article went on to say that he is a 12 yr. veteran and he was released from the hospital and wants to get back to work. Good news for a change!!



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by alphadog1
I read an article the Officer that was shot is a native of Chelmsford, MA. The article went on to say that he is a 12 yr. veteran and he was released from the hospital and wants to get back to work. Good news for a change!!
Actually, the officer is a native of Indiana but he did live in Chelmsford for a short time. He is a Marine whose best friend from the Corps is a native of Chelmsford. In fact, he (the friend) was on Chelmsford PD for four years before coming out to join the LAPD with his buddy (the guy who was shot).

Both officers came by the station today. The officer who was shot still has a hole in his back but he is doing well. I found out that he was actually hit four times from a .357 magnum, once in the grip of his handgun, once on the badge, once in the vest, and once through and through in the upper chest, just beside his vest. He's one lucky guy! Wear your vest 'cause you never know!



Posted by: dave7336

Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Copper
Actually, the officer is a native of Indiana but he did live in Chelmsford for a short time. He is a Marine whose best friend from the Corps is a native of Chelmsford. In fact, he (the friend) was on Chelmsford PD for four years before coming out to join the LAPD with his buddy (the guy who was shot).

Both officers came by the station today. The officer who was shot still has a hole in his back but he is doing well. I found out that he was actually hit four times from a .357 magnum, once in the grip of his handgun, once on the badge, once in the vest, and once through and through in the upper chest, just beside his vest. He's one lucky guy! Wear your vest 'cause you never know!
Thoughts and prayers are with the officer and his family



Posted by: LA Copper

Had three more officer involved shootings in the last few days. One was at the end of a pursuit where the suspect suddenly stopped his stolen car, got out and started shooting at the patrol cars behind him. Another was last night where plain clothes officers were shot at a number of times before they could even get out of their car.

In both instances the officers weren't hit but the suspects were! Like I've been repeating, lots of action, and danger, for those of you looking for it. And it's still winter, so to speak...



Posted by: kwflatbed

Some of the CA action

1 Killed, 1 Wounded In Walnut Park Shooting

Roommate Repeatedly Stabs Sylmar Man In The Back

Police Seek Couple In 2 Home Invasion Robberies

2 Shot Near Santa Monica Pier, 2 Arrested

Gunman Wounds 4, Causing Car Crash In Gardena

Boy Crashes Stolen Car While Fleeing From Police

CHP Uses PIT Maneuver To End Chase In El Monte

1 Dead, 4 Injured In Fiery South O.C. Crash



Posted by: LA Copper

Harry,
I wish I could figure out how to put articles on here like you did. That way I'd post all the OIS incidents we have.



Posted by: kwflatbed

It's not hard Mike those were from the LA Times links.
Just highlight the link and copy and paste in here.
The easy way is to have two pages open, if you make
a mistake just backspace it out.
Just takes a little practice.

The links were not from the LA Times they were from
http://cbs2.com/local


Man Found Dead After 11-Hour Police Standoff
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var title=charStrip("Authorities Looking For Speeders On Highway 111"); writeClipImg(title, "http://cbs2.com/local/local_story_037162732.html", "saveit");Authorities Looking For Speeders On Highway 111
var title=charStrip("Council Grants EEA Members 3-Percent Annual Raises"); writeClipImg(title, "http://cbs2.com/local/local_story_037161703.html", "saveit");
var title=charStrip("Montebello Boy, 11, Shot While Taking Out Trash"); writeClipImg(title, "http://cbs2.com/local/local_story_037150655.html", "saveit");Montebello Boy, 11, Shot While Taking Out Trash

var title=charStrip("Ninth Teen Sentenced In Halloween Attack"); writeClipImg(title, "http://cbs2.com/local/local_story_037145459.html", "saveit");Ninth Teen Sentenced In Halloween Attack

var title=charStrip("Reward Offered For Gunman In Deadly Shooting"); writeClipImg(title, "http://cbs2.com/local/local_story_037135441.html", "saveit");Reward Offered For Gunman In Deadly Shooting

looking at the above you would backspace out everything not in blue print.

Man Found Dead After 11-Hour Police Standoff

Authorities Looking For Speeders On Highway 111

Montebello Boy, 11, Shot While Taking Out Trash

Ninth Teen Sentenced In Halloween Attack

Reward Offered For Gunman In Deadly Shooting

and this is what will show in the post



Posted by: LA Copper

Looks simple enough.... Which probably leaves me out!
Guess I just don't play with this thing enough to learn about it...



Posted by: LA Copper

I was just looking at the weather forcast; it's gonna be in the mid to upper 70s out here this week but it's gonna be in the 20s back there in Mass. Another reason to think about doing police work out here in the west.

Year round good weather means year round crime!



Posted by: Deuce

you suck....



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deuce
you suck....
I know!

On another matter, we just had our 16th officer involved shooting so far this year. Busy, busy, busy.....



Posted by: LA Copper

I was just back there for a week for a death in the family. The weather was terrible the whole time! I was even there for the big wind and rain storm and got to clean up all the mess in the yard, not fun! That's another good reason it would be good to head out west or down south. I miss home but I certainly don't miss that miserable weather. Besides, with the year round nice weather comes year round crime.

I don't envy you guys having to do details in that miserable weather, you can have it! I'll take the sun and warm temps any day!

Also, we've already got 25 officer involved shootings so far this year and it's not even May!



Posted by: LA Copper

I attended our Medal of Valor ceremony a few days ago. Once again, more acts by some of our officers that make me proud to be a police officer but especially a Los Angeles Police Officer.

I reiterate, if you're looking for a good paying police job and a lot of action, come on out! We're still hiring like crazy and are looking for good people.



Posted by: LA Copper

For those of you who have expressed interest in coming out to Los Angeles and to those of you who have PM'ed me regarding same, if you're still interested, I'll be coming back there for vacation in late July. If you'd like to meet up and talk about the job, I'd be happy to do so. Feel free to PM me if you're interested.



Posted by: KozmoKramer

LACopper - what are the main difference between LAPD, LA County PD, and LASD in respect to policing and jurisdiction?
I just noticed the job opportunity posted for the LA County Police Dept.



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by KozmoKramer
LACopper - what are the main difference between LAPD, LA County PD, and LASD in respect to policing and jurisdiction?
I just noticed the job opportunity posted for the LA County Police Dept.
Hi Kozmo,
LAPD handles policing in the City of Los Angeles only. We have every specialized unit you can imagine. We have several jails but they only house folks for a short time, usually until they go to court or are transferred to the Sheriffs. Our jails are run by Detention Officers, not sworn officers like the Sheriffs.

LASD handles the biggest County Jail system in the country. They usually have to do at least 4 or 5 years in jail before they make it out on the street. They contract to cities who don't have their own police department and they do policing in cities that are unincorporated. (These are all much smaller cities than the City of Los Angeles. They don't do policing in the City of L.A.) They also have a lot of specialized units and they are the bailiffs in the courtrooms.

L.A. County Police handle policing on County properties, such as parks and buildings. There are also a few man made lakes where folks water and jet ski. They handle that stuff too. I've heard that they may be merging with the LASD.



Posted by: LA Copper

Just heard that The National Geographic Channel is gonna air a new show on the The North Hollywood Bank of America robbery and shootout. It's gonna be on this coming Tuesday, June 12. Not sure of the time yet. From the pomo, it looks pretty good. In case anyone's interested.



Posted by: Nightstalker

interesting enough... Ill try to catch it. ANy idea what its called?



Posted by: tommym27

If it is the special I think he is talking about it is part of a series called "Shootout" it takes some of the more famous police shootouts and breaks them down and everything. I saw the North Hollywood one and it was awesome. Really interesting



Posted by: kwflatbed

Information about the show Critical-Situation

http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...cal-situation/


Video Preview:
http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...on/videos.html



Posted by: tommym27

After re-reading through all these posts I didn't see some info that I feel would be helpful for people considering making the move. After looking at the LAPD website, it says that the academy out there is 7 months long. But I couldn't find anywhere that they say how often they run academies. Do they run them back to back, or once a year, more than one class at once? Thanks



Posted by: LA Copper

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Originally Posted by tommym27
After re-reading through all these posts I didn't see some info that I feel would be helpful for people considering making the move. After looking at the LAPD website, it says that the academy out there is 7 months long. But I couldn't find anywhere that they say how often they run academies. Do they run them back to back, or once a year, more than one class at once? Thanks
They are currently running every month, with each class having betweent 50 - 75 recruits. It's not a live in and you get full pay while attending.



Posted by: LA Copper

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Just heard that The National Geographic Channel is gonna air a new show on the The North Hollywood Bank of America robbery and shootout. It's gonna be on this coming Tuesday, June 12. Not sure of the time yet. From the pomo, it looks pretty good. In case anyone's interested.
I just watched the show and found it somewhat disappointing. I'm amazed that all these years later with all this time to do their homework, they still got a lot of stuff wrong. Just goes to show that you can't believe everything you see on TV.



Posted by: LA Copper

One of the sergeants I work with is retiring today after 30 1/2 years on the job. He is truly a good guy who takes care of the troops by writing lots of commendations and nominations for awards and decorations.

He was a member of our Honor Guard and has been awarded several medals for bravery. Over the years, he has saved eight suicidal people from killing themselves by several different means.

Because he's a good guy, I was able to get Chief Bratton to come to our roll call this morning to personally present him his final awards and some 30 year certificate type stuff.

I must say, Chief Bratton was very gracious to take time out of his very busy schedule to attend this roll call for a man he really doesn't know. His comments were from the heart and he mentioned his time as an officer and sergeant on the Boston PD. Of course all the guys then turned to me and laughed 'cause they all know I'm a Bostonian too!



Posted by: PBC FL Cop

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Originally Posted by LA Copper
I was able to get Chief Bratton to come to our roll call this morning to personally present him his final awards and some 30 year certificate type stuff.
I'm sure your buddy appreciated your effort, good looking out!!! Congrats to your friend for his service and dedication as well.

Stay safe out west!!



Posted by: LA Copper

For those of you still interested in either the LAPD or the LASD, check out the Fox Reality Channel. Six days a week, twice a day, they air repeats of: LAPD, Life On The Beat. If you haven't seen the show before, it's a pretty good indication of what the job is like out here. (Plus I got on 16 episodes so that was "wicked" cool!)

They also have the new show: The Academy, which follows an LASD academy class from beginning to end. You'll get an idea what it's like in the academy for the L.A. County Sheriffs.

As a side note, this channel also shows old repeats of: Real Stories of the Highway Patrol, which sometimes shows the Mass State Police.





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